“The world is made up of herbivores and carnivores. If we decide to remain herbivores, the carnivores win.”

— French President Emmanuel Macron after the US reelection of Donald Trump, November 7, 2024.

@randahl On behalf of all non-meat eaters who understand why the fuck having the military capabilities to prevent another Bucha in Estonia or Lithuania is NOT an insult to your vegan lunch or your favourite elephant conservation: I'm sorry, we're not *all* like this.

@Mnemosinee I do agree on the necessity for strength (even and especially military). I do NOT agree on becoming like your opponent as a necessity to defend yourself. That’s how i interpreted Macron’s statement as I read it in this thread. And that’s what my anology was about.

Sorry for obviously having triggered something.
@randahl

@nshr @randahl This is where speaking French and going to the original content might help instead of reading bite pieces in English out of their context. No, the point is not to become LIKE your opponent, the point is to arm ourselves in Europe to defeat our opponent and stop him from eating us. And by us, I mean the most vulnerable in the herd (hint: it's not his country, they have nukes, nobody's invading France).
@Mnemosinee Thanks for clarifying and your clear statement that made me answer.
@randahl

@nshr @randahl tldr: don't read Politico. Politico is owned by Axel Springer and ran by Mathias Döpfner. People who only followed the summit this quote comes from via the Politico headline, have it floating about without context because that's the lazy way to follow EU politics: in English only, from a right-wing rag all of Brussels treats to access in excess for coverage. Compare to the full speech and we wouldn't be having this conversation, would we?

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@Mnemosinee
Agree, we would not have had that conversation. But anyway I am lucky we have.
@randahl