moe90Nintendo and The Pokémon Company seek injunction against Palworld plus fine and damages, developer says
CaptainBasculinFor reference, the alledged patents are these:
einkornHold my bacon, one can patent the idea that a game character switches mounts depending on a given state? (Image 3)
TimeSquirrelSoftware parents are fucked, ain't they? You can implement a thing using completely different code, algorithms, hell even programming languages/CPU architectures, and you'd still be infringing. There was some stupid fight over a simple slider UI element to unlock a phone a few years back.
Yeah software patents should be like “this exact code” or something along these lines. I mean patenting “hello world” should give you billions
Code is already copyrighted by default, so no need for software patents. Luckily software patents are null and void in EU, so I don’t have to worry about that.
Seems like it. So when you come down from the sky on your flying mount and get close to the ground, you swap to a horse mount for example.
How can one patent this… wtf!
Holy hell.
Even by the standard of “all software patents are nonsense”, these are a fucking joke.
It basically hits any game with mounts or vehicles.
blargbluukHow do these not apply to the majority of games, these sound so insanely broad. Patents are so stupid.
Sony has a petent for having two data streams at once
pewgar_seemsimandroidusb has more i think.
Todd BonzalezThey only apply to games from Japan. This is the Japanese patent system.
How many Japanese games are there? Nintendo better pick up the pace.
AppoxoBut why in english if it’s (seemingly) domestic only.
Are they mandated to submit in English?
Are they mandated to submit in English?
The posted text could be translation. Kinda reads like it.
What are the dates in the corners?
These are the patent publication dates, for more details you can check patentscope.wipo.int with patents 7545191, 7493117 and 7528390
These look like they are after Palworld was released. Was Nintendo just sitting on the patent since Pokeman red/blue? What an unintuitive legal system they have over in Japan.
How can you infringe on a patent that doesn’t exist when you’re writing the code?hopefully Palworld can afford the lawyers to kill this off now.
Looking through the first one’s content and it seems reasonable? The patent’s abstract is supposed to be as widely applicable as legally permitted, so it’s like a completely different language on top of legalese.
JP7545191B1 - GAME PROGRAM, GAME SYSTEM, GAME DEVICE, AND GAME PROCESSING METHOD - Google Patents
[Problem] To provide a game program, game system, game device, and game processing method that can cause a player character to perform various types of actions on a field in a virtual space. [Solution] In a first mode, the aiming direction in the virtual space is determined based on a second operation input, and the player character is caused to fire an item that affects a field character arranged on a field in the virtual space in the aiming direction based on a third operation input, and in a second mode, the aiming direction is determined based on the second operation input, and the player character is caused to fire a combat character that engages in combat in the aiming direction based on the third operation input. [Selected Figure] Figure 22
MirthfulAlembicThe solutions here don’t seem to really be solutions in my opinion, especially the third one. It’s like if the problem a patent solves was “being able to individually package sandwiches on a conveyor belt” and the solution was “have a machine that recognizes where one sandwich ends and another begins so it can stop and start packaging appropriately.” Like, no kidding, but how?
If these were stories I was picking up to implement I would be asking the BA to elaborate some more 😂
So the first two seem to deal with throwing a capture item at a creature (wild pokemon) and/or releasing a character’s own creature to fight it (essentially first seen in Legends Arceus, tossing a ball at a pokemon to aggro it and then fighting it with your pokemon). The third one is, as others have said, Mount transitions (at least in pokemon, also first seen in Legends Arceus if you only count ride pokemon; if vehicles are included I believe the first would be Sword/Shield). Though if vehicles are included Nintendo would have a hard time fighting that one. Vehicle transformation, especially in racing games, has been around forever.
Software parents are such absolute horseshit.
I mean if they help children grow when they have no real parents…
I’m kinda sure Palworld’s devs are ok with this. Makes them not having to finish the early access game, which their studio has like 4 others to finish anyway.
Sentient LoomNintendo are the baddies
FilthyShroomsYet people keep buying from them
randomasideNintendo sues everyone they can because as an IP holder of some seriously valuable properties, everything else in the gaming industry just looks like free real estate for them to colonize. I can make a game called “Dog Fighters” and I’m sure they’ll find a way to tell me they own that idea.
Can’t wait for gamers to completely ignore this and buy their next console and pokémon game
I’ve stopped giving Nintendo money for anything, it’s been about 5 years now.
Nah fuck them. Got a switch + games. Account hacked. Wrote to tech sup. Nothing but automated answer. Gave that shit away never again
Oh I haven’t played that in a while. Looks like a bunch of updates
This will end badly and will hurt gaming.
Remember when Nintendo made modding games illegal in Japan…
Still out would be best for Ninny to lose this one hard.
First: if they won’t there will be more to come for other games, stopping any innovation in this genre. Second: Their lawsuits are hitting other software developers (see Yuzu/Ryujinx cases), players and content creators and we need some case where they lose so they don’t go even wilder
MCasq_qsaCJ_234I curse patents