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Tomi T Ahonen Nov 7, 2024

Trump did not win this election

We lost this election

Our side did not bother to vote. 1 in 10 of our voters did not show up

Trump was headed to epic defeat, at 46% of vote. Instead, when 1 in 10 of our voters didn't vote, Harris victory at 52% turned into a loss at 48%

We gave him this victory

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Hartmut Neubauer

@tomiahonen did you check this?
https://social.cologne/@agrinova/113440720363301872
This is not about demographics.
This is a contradiction which cannot be declared without fraud.
The calculation of the exit poll shows that under normal conditions Harris would have probably won the national vote on election day.
This is a contradiction to the official result that Trump won the overall pop vote.

Hartmut Neubauer (@[email protected])

Attached: 1 image @[email protected] I have some math for you. Look at this table. (I guess it is from WP, but different sources citet it (a.o. AOL)) If you multiply the shares of the groups in the population in this table by the respective vote shares and add them up, you get 50.3% for Harris and about 49% for Trump. Of course, you have to take rounding errors into account, but the tendency in the graph speaks rather narrowly in favor of Harris. @[email protected] ->

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WesDym Nov 19, 2024

@agrinova @tomiahonen Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. Fraud is possible, but unprovable statistics don't prove it.

My own sense is that millions of likely Harris voters withheld their votes, probably over Gaza. There were a lot of people like that, who said they did that (or cast blank ballots), and listening to them talk it's clear they did not understand the stakes involved, and maybe much more.