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As expected, Trump's "peace plan" for Ukraine is to just force them to give up and let Moscow have everything they wanted. Literally rewarding the aggressor for their aggression.

https://meduza.io/en/news/2024/11/07/wsj-reports-that-trump-is-reviewing-ukraine-peace-plan-options-that-cede-all-occupied-territory-to-moscow-suspend-nato-expansion-and-create-dmz

WSJ reports that Trump is reviewing Ukraine peace plan options that cede all occupied territory to Moscow, suspend NATO expansion, and create DMZ — Meduza

The Wall Street Journal reports that Donald Trump is now inundated with competing proposals from advisers to implement his campaign promise to end the war in Ukraine by Inauguration Day. 

Meduza
Nov 7, 2024 at 10:54amWeb
Show threadTechAltarNov 7, 2024
Oh and the US should fund no part of the new "peace". Cool, cool. A great international partner to build alliances with.
Show threadEspaña BizarraNov 7, 2024
@Techaltar What could possibly go wrong?
Show threadMeko #nowarNov 7, 2024
@Techaltar 800 miles is around 1200 km, right?
Show threadTechAltarNov 7, 2024
@yura presumably this is the length of the line, not the width
Show threadXerz 💗Nov 7, 2024
@Techaltar welp, he didn't lie about the end of the war part

it's just that we'll have a new kind of pax americana around, the one buliies get a say on
Show threadSpare JoeNov 7, 2024
@Techaltar How do you guys stay hopeful in life?
Show threadplactagonicNov 7, 2024
@Techaltar last time something like this lasted for [Czechs notes] about a year.
Show threadSam IzbyNov 7, 2024
@Techaltar
The war must be over, and no one who speaks out against the war can advocate its continuation. Everyone will be happy if this war will end tomorrow.
Show threadJonas DaehnertNov 7, 2024
@izby @Techaltar Russia could simply stop its war of aggression, which violates international law. War over. Stylizing NATO as the enemy only served to hide its fascist imperialism. There was and is no rational reason to destroy Ukraine. Probably just Putin's inferiority complex.
Show threadSam IzbyNov 7, 2024
@phonedesigner
And how many years would you like this to continue? 5? 10? I have not met pacifists who would like this nightmare to end tomorrow.
Show threadJonas DaehnertNov 7, 2024
@izby It's about how long Putin wants the war to last. I can neither dictate nor blame the Ukrainians for how long they fight for their lives. That is their decision alone.
Show threadSam IzbyNov 7, 2024
@phonedesigner
But that's what you actually do. If the fate of the world depended only on your decision, which would you choose: stop or continue? Think about this.
Show threadJonas DaehnertNov 7, 2024
@izby Moralizing is hidden cynicism. Think about this.
Show threadSam IzbyNov 7, 2024
@phonedesigner
Pacifism is a cynical way of self-promotion.
Show threadJonas DaehnertNov 7, 2024
@izby Ok. 🤷‍♂️
Show threadZ̈oéNov 7, 2024
@izby @phonedesigner I can understand you‘d prefer ukraine to stop existing but that doesn’t make you a pacifist
Show threadSam IzbyNov 8, 2024

@uint8_t
Nope, but as I can see, you would like the war to never end. And I want this war to just end right now. We are not the same, right?

The same question for you. If you could stop this right now, without conditions, would you? People die every day, but you sit in a warm house and insist that they must continue. I can't believe that someone is not able to understand such basic things.

Show threadZ̈oéNov 8, 2024
@izby this imperialist war of russia could end any day. supreme leader putin could just recall the remaining troops from ukraine. as long as there’s resistance against the aggressor I wish they get all support they need.
Show threadSam IzbyNov 8, 2024
@uint8_t
I repeat the question: if you could decide whether this would continue or end right now, which would you choose?
Show threadZ̈oéNov 8, 2024
@izby go troll elsewhere
Show threadSam IzbyNov 8, 2024

UDP: She just deleted the discussion.

We live in this hell, they watch this on TV. That's the difference. If even pacifists from civilized Western countries don't want it to stop, why do you think one day he would?

Show threadTor Iver WilhelmsenNov 7, 2024
@Techaltar And if he succeeds in bullying the pro-Ukraine side into accepting that, then China will se it as a signal that they can just take Taiwan and Trump will just demand a «peace» where China wins. Next up, Korea…
Show threadUkeleleEricNov 7, 2024
@Techaltar And this DMZ is going to be like the 'temporary' one in Korea? History repeats itself. It has to. No-one listens.
Show threadSergioNov 7, 2024

@Techaltar #trumpIsATraitor just showing his colors

#trumpIsAFelonForever

Show threadLstn2urmama 🇨🇦Nov 7, 2024
@Techaltar PATHETIC
Show threadRobert WilsonNov 7, 2024
@Techaltar obviously. Trump and Putin are friends after all. Cut from exactly the same cloth.
Show threadValley_primeNov 7, 2024
@Techaltar That's just shit, like why people. Why did you choose him!
Show threadAlex Chapman (moved to new account)Nov 7, 2024
@Valley_prime @Techaltar I know right, the world is screwied
Show threadValley_primeNov 7, 2024
@alexchapman @Techaltar Yeah, it is, like, what are we supposed to do now, move to Canada? No, it's too cold there, and I like it here, but if this guy does something to us, then say bye bye to me then.
Show threadPaulNickson 🕊️🎛️🎼Nov 7, 2024
@Techaltar Why am I not surprised? Give Ukraine to Vlad, then wonder why he starts marching all over Europe.