LaffyOct 30, 2024

Via Elie Mystal:

#Trump's "secret plan" with Mike Johnson to steal the election is more devious than you probably think. It's not just electing Trump via the House. It's decreasing the overall number of electoral votes until Trump wins a majority. https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/little-secret-trump-johnson-election/

Show threadLaffyOct 30, 2024
2/ "In 2020, Nancy Pelosi was Speaker of the House. If states had tried to get cute and not submit their electors by the December 11 deadline, Pelosi would just have extended the deadline. But Speaker Johnson surely won’t. If electors are not submitted by December 11, he’ll likely declare the process “over” and say that the electors appointed by that date are the only ones allowed to vote for president"
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3/ "Crucially, Johnson can do this even if GOP lose House & Johnson is removed from power. The new House isn’t sworn in until Jan 3. As the violent MAGA people in your family already know, Jan 6 is when House certifies the results of electoral college, but that is just a ceremonial day. By the time we get to Jan 6, the electors are supposed to have voted. Dec 11 is the deadline for appointing electors, Dec 25 is the deadline for voting. Mike Johnson will still be in charge on both of those days"
Oct 30, 2024 at 4:52pmWeb
Show threadLaffyOct 30, 2024

4/ FYI, I did forward this article on Twitter to Marc Elias, where he posts. I'll do the same on Threads. This is one of the only reason I stay on Twitter, to read only those on my list there, and to share legit info.

I wish I didn't have to.

Show threadThomas AndersonOct 30, 2024
@GottaLaff I second that. For the purpose of my podcast, I have to follow #CandaceOwens on Twitter, Instagram, Rumble, Locals, and anywhere else she posts her bullshit. She is the only follow I do on those. I would've mentioned #ThatFuckingGuy social network, which I am on, but Candace doesn't have a presence there, which is something I've questioned since I learned it, given how much of a Alt-Reich pusher she is. Otherwise, I would have nothing to do with most of this stuff.
Show threadLaffyOct 30, 2024
@GishgallopGirl Ugh
Show threadLittleGoatGirlOct 30, 2024
@GottaLaff same -
Show threadTerpieCatOct 30, 2024
@GottaLaff I'm sure Mark's aware of these possibilities. I'm just not sure what can be done about it, if the ultimate goal is to leave it to the Supreme Court to decide.
Show threadDanette 🐬Oct 30, 2024
@GottaLaff this is what I have been terrified of because TFG hasn’t been interested in campaigning. He doesn’t really care about anyone but his base. Why? Because they have a plan. This plan? More than one plan? Probably
Show threadLaffyOct 30, 2024
@Danetteb That's clearly what he meant when he said, "Don't vote. We have all the votes we need."
Show threadDanette 🐬Oct 30, 2024
@GottaLaff yep he gave us the heads up
Show threadMaksiSanctum has movedOct 30, 2024
@GottaLaff Thanks for doing that so I don't have to
Show threadLaffyOct 30, 2024
@MaksiSanctum You still should. He needs to see it.
Show threadJennyOct 31, 2024
@GottaLaff Marc Elias did an online panel with Jamie Raskin and Brian Tyler Cohen last night discussing exactly these issues. Jamie is very confident that R’s won’t be able to finagle this, I wish I shared his confidence! I think Marc agreed (although I missed some of what he said when anxiety made me zone out for a minute). I’d be interested to hear if he shares any further thoughts with you!
Show threadLaffyOct 31, 2024
@tiamat271 He won’t. He never responds. Did he address Elie’s exact point?
Show threadJennyOct 31, 2024
@GottaLaff I think he did but I can’t remember exactly and I can’t find a replay and now I’m panicking again! 😩😬
Show threadLaffyOct 31, 2024
@tiamat271 I'm in a perpetual state of panic
Show threadJennyOct 31, 2024

@GottaLaff Same here.

I haven’t found a replay yet but here’s a separate clip of Marc talking to BTC about it. He’s confident that the “secret plan” won’t succeed but doesn’t really give concrete details/reasons why. 😬 I’m hoping that’s because he’s a brilliant lawyer who just doesn’t want to bore/confuse us with the details (or maybe he doesn’t want to tip his hand to Rs about how the “secret plan” would be defeated). I will keep looking to see if I can find more...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=LWhjrQCpn0Y

Trump gets BAD NEWS over “little secret” to steal election

Democracy Watch episode 205: Marc Elias discusses Trump's little "secret" to steal the election.SIGN UP: https://www.democracydocket.com/btc-subscribe/For m...

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Show threadLaffyOct 31, 2024
@tiamat271 I've seen him on MSNBC saying the same. But Elie brought up specific that I haven't seen him address.
Show threadJennyOct 31, 2024
@GottaLaff yeah I’m sorry. They talked about it a lot on the live panel, but I’m honestly so riddled w/stress and anxiety that I didn’t catch/remember all of it. They may have addressed that specifically or maybe it was something else. I’ll keep looking (maybe he’ll go back to it again and discuss more specific points like Elie’s since more people are talking about it?). I’ll definitely let you know if I find anything.
Show threadLaffyOct 31, 2024
@tiamat271 Thanks!
Show threadJennyOct 31, 2024
@GottaLaff I’m vaguely recalling them discussing something about governors sending their electors, and that most (but not all) of the states likely to be contested either have D governors (like AZ, NC, WI) or R governors who push back on election hijinx (like GA) who are unlikely to let shenanigans make them miss the deadline. Again, that requires having good faith in them, which is what Ellie is worried about (and so am I), so who knows what will happen.
Show threadLaffyOct 31, 2024
@tiamat271 "good faith" is the problem.
Show threadJennyOct 31, 2024
@GottaLaff I understand, and am with you on that. I just don’t know what else to say.
Show threadJimTheWhyGuy ❌👑Oct 30, 2024

@GottaLaff Me and the wife are already making plans for protesting whatever action(s) TFG and his gang of idjits plan after November 5th.

It may take massive marches in the streets of DC - and probably even in some state capitols like Madison, WI - to ensure that the rule of law is upheld and TFG and MAGA is placed - nay, THROWN! - upon the ash heap of USA political history. 🤬

Show threadtexanarchyOct 30, 2024
@GottaLaff can’t remember which Eastern European country it was but the people got in the streets and stayed there banging pots & pans still the dictator stepped down. We gotta do that. Every day as long as it takes.
Show threadPG1958WILLNOTCOMPLY 🇺🇸🇷🇴🇺🇦🇵🇸Oct 31, 2024
@texanarchy @GottaLaff
In Romania 2015 the ppl protested nightly for 2wks until the corrupt PM stepped down. Every day after work ppl met, marched and succeeded! It was great to be part of it. I hoped at the 1st impeachment Americans would do the same but it was just a few ppl at the Capitol... don't underestimate the power of peaceful protest!
Show threadjasonvpOct 30, 2024
@GottaLaff I believe this episode of Amicus talks about this vulnerability in the new law. There are provisions to ensure certification at the state level even if people try to block it, but of course that depends on the checks in the system working, and correct results being available. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/amicus-with-dahlia-lithwick-law-justice-and-the-courts/id928790786?i=1000673616247
How To Steal A Presidential Election

Podcast Episode · Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts · 10/19/2024 · 1h 3m

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Show threadEllenJSOct 30, 2024

@GottaLaff

Please double check “Dec 25 is the deadline for voting”. Really? Christmas Day is the deadline for voting?

Show threadLaffyOct 30, 2024
@EllenJS I didn't write this, Elie did.
Show threadAngry CentristOct 31, 2024
@GottaLaff I'm not a lawyer of any kind, much less a constitutional one, but I wonder in that narrow case, if the Republicans lose the House but try to diddle with the number of electors as described, if the members of the House on 6 January can reject the dastardly work done by MAGA Mike... Let's vote like our nation depends on it (it does) and hope the outcome is stark enough to make these sorts of shenanigans unworkable.