Dan GillmorOct 28, 2024

A vote for a third party this year is a vote for fascism.

A vote to punish Harris even though you know Trump is vastly worse is a vote for fascism.

Not voting is a vote for fascism.

This is the starkest choice in decades: democracy or fascism.

It truly is that simple.

Show threadJon Het.

@dangillmor wait... so THIS is the most important election ever? Man! I got lied to last election, and the one before that, and a few before that when I was told THOSE were the most important elections ever.

Something something about boys crying wolf to many times.

I'm voting for Cornell West. If you don't want tre45on to win, everyone should join me.

Oct 28, 2024 at 7:16amMastodon for Android
Show threadzaire the bored genderfuckOct 28, 2024

@Jon_Kramer so completely oblivious to the fact voting for a third party is as good as not voting at all, and people not voting is how democracy dies.

the reason project 2025 is called that is because it's only now that the American alt-right has come up with a coherent plan to quickly turn the United States into the United Toilet, and if you're into having your head shoved into a toilet by a Hitler admirer i think you should keep it to yourself.

Show threadJon Het.Oct 28, 2024

@soop so, you support the genocide in Gaza? You would vote for someone pledged to fund that?

And you question my tastes in the bedroom??

Show threadzaire the bored genderfuckOct 28, 2024
@Jon_Kramer You have a choice between an imperfect candidate and an outrightly fascist candidate. The right decision couldn't be more obvious.
Show threadJon Het.Oct 28, 2024

@soop agreed.

It is obvious I should not support fucking genocide.

Show threadzaire the bored genderfuckOct 28, 2024
@Jon_Kramer As much as it sucks, voting for a third party is not a realistic option in the current US electoral system.
Show threadJon Het.Oct 28, 2024
@soop watch me do it in just over a week. It is very much an option.
Show threadJernej Simončič �Oct 28, 2024
@Jon_Kramer @soop
Show threadDave GoldsmithOct 28, 2024

@soop @Jon_Kramer

Unless, of course, like most Americans, you live in a "safe state."

Show threadCarmen Bianca BAKKEROct 28, 2024

american leftists are all about organising for collective action until comes the time to vote.

then it's a difficult personal choice.

because the candidate that is a bajillion times better than the fascist candidate isn't my platonic ideal of perfect.

individuals aren't responsible for the ravages of capitalism when they buy a thing.

but everyone who votes for the imperfect candidate is directly responsible for the bad things they do.

but everyone who votes for the perfect candidate and indirectly causes the fascist to win is not responsible for the outcome.

i'm not a hypocrite. i'm a principled leftist.

organising for electoral reform, or organising to influence the imperfect candidate to be better, that's too liberal and unsexy.

revolution or death.

(but i refuse to organise any change outside my personal actions and my toots on an irrelevant social media, so it's death.)

Show threadRiaResistsOct 28, 2024
@Jon_Kramer @soop JFC!!!
Wake the fuck up!
Show threadRiaResistsOct 28, 2024
@Jon_Kramer @soop duuur I’m a privelidged, entitled little shit who just wants to stir shit up.
Of course I’m voting for the PO of orange shit who wants to deport every Muslim in America to serve up to my buddy BiBi.
Yer over here being a dipshit.
You go on to hell if you want to.
Show threadDave GoldsmithOct 28, 2024

@soop @Jon_Kramer

Unless, of course, like most Americans, you live in a "safe state."

Show threadJonathan Kamens 86 47Oct 28, 2024
@Jon_Kramer @dangillmor So here's the thing, Jon.
When things are as on the edge as they've been in your lifetime, which in many ways they are, and at risk of getting even worse, which they absolutely are, then yes, election after election is going to be the most important election in your lifetime, because that's how time works.
I see that you're following me. Well, you _were_ following me, but not anymore, because I've blocked you, because I prefer not to hang around with idiots.
Show threadEh?!?Oct 28, 2024

@Jon_Kramer @dangillmor
EVERY election is the most important election ever. Until the next election.

Freedom and democracy are not granted, they come from the struggle and suffering of those who gained them before and they must be preserved and protected. Every day, every election. Even if they are not perfect. Because you can't improve them if you loose them.

Show threadjz.tuskOct 28, 2024

@Jon_Kramer @dangillmor

Indistinguishable from a Russian troll.

Show threadMacCruiskeenOct 28, 2024
@Jon_Kramer @dangillmor Yes, 8 days before the election, 50 million people are going to change their minds and agree with you. That could happen! And your principled stand won't mean shit in Trump's concentration camps.
Show threadmathewOct 28, 2024
@Jon_Kramer @dangillmor I got told that 2022 was the hottest year on record. Then I got told that 2023 was the hottest year on record. You're crying wolf, climate scientists!
Show threadJon Het.Oct 28, 2024

@mathew @dangillmor Which of those is the hottest year of our lifetimes? Did anyone tell you that 2022 was going to be the hottest year of your life?

Climate scientists presented facts.

Show threadmathewOct 28, 2024
@Jon_Kramer @dangillmor Nobody's telling you that there won't ever be a more important election than this one.
Show threadJon Het.Oct 28, 2024

@mathew @dangillmor Are you joking? I have been told that thousands of times.

Google this: most important election of our lives