To the FSF:

Remove Stallman. Replace the FSF board. Make the Free Software movement and culture safe for women to participate.

To Everyone:

Stop harboring assholes and start shouting down "reply guys". Make it clear to women that "Yes. You belong here" - not just with words but with actions. Take safety seriously. If you can't be kind to you fellow humans, then no amount of software will benefit the world, no matter its license.

https://mastodon.social/@report_press/113305688857205037

@48kRAM Site with the report looks like it's down. 😞
@Joseph @48kRAM That took longer than expected.
@48kRAM From reading this, Stallman sounds like the kind of guy who would defend P. Diddy.
@48kRAM
This information about Stallman saddens me. As sad as I am, he’s got to go.
@48kRAM well I always knew he was an asshole but now I know he's a creepy asshole

@48kRAM I blocked "The Stallman Report" because (a) it was attributed to "anonymous editors", (b) allegations in some of the replies sounded like things that should have been reported to the police, so if they weren't contacted or did not find it credible, the obvious question is "why", and (c) the whole matter seemed to pop up out of nowhere.

Allegations should not be anonymous unless there is a credible reason to believe that there could be some non-trivial retaliation.

@bzdev No. Asking people who have been harmed to paint a target on their backs in order to voice their harms is not the way. This culture is too toxic for them to expect to be safe in their accusations. Anonymity MUST be an option.

The whole "Why didn't you report it to the police" thing has been asked and answered.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10993628/

https://www.ojp.gov/sites/g/files/xyckuh241/files/archives/blogs-2017/2017-blog-ncvs.htm

Reasons for Not Reporting Among Sexual Assault Survivors Who Seek Medical Forensic Exams: A Qualitative Analysis

After a sexual assault, survivors have the option of seeking a medical forensic exam, which includes medical evaluation and treatment, as well as forensic evidence collection. Forensic evidence is collected in a sexual assault evidence kit (SAEK) and ...

PubMed Central (PMC)
@bzdev @48kRAM The entire report is one massive pile of citations. They're not claiming anything based on personal authority. Why would their anonymity discredit that?

@Nentuaby @48kRAM You missed the point, which was basically, given all the ridiculous allegations going around these days - like meteorologists controlling hurricanes - when I see something where the "editors" are "anonymous", why would I bother reading it? How would they be threatened? It's not like Trump being able to ban someone from his country club (assuming anyone even cared).

It is not about Richard Stallman. It is about a simple filter to avoid wasting my time.

@bzdev @48kRAM Gonna be blunt: a filter that you won't read careful citations unless they're also backed by assertion of personal authority is fully, 180° ass-backwards.

@Nentuaby @48kRAM Nope. The people supposedly compiling those citations ( or whatever the hell was in that report) were supposedly anonymous. Why be anonymous if you are merely listing citations? You don't have to be a victim, real or imagined, to do that, and the original tute referred to "editors", not "victims".

BTW, this is going to be my last comment on this garbage - I have more important things to do.

@bzdev @48kRAM Gee. I wonder if they addressed that, your one cogent question. Guess you'll never know!

Bye! Probably should have considered your precious time before you initiated this conversation, but hey.

@bzdev @48kRAM No. Instead of tone policing the people pointing out the misogynist, pedophile asshole in the middle of the community, maybe just do your part to make things right and get the guy to resign.

@freemo :
Beware of
Savonarola's vermin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXmh6Slkg_4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3w5tgiMmNk&t=163s

Please make sure that fanatics like
@baldengineer
@48kRAM
may have their say,
but never get to shout down and cancel anyone based on absurd accusations
on this site.

Machiavelli Owns Fanatic Children.mp4

YouTube

@tatzelbrumm @baldengineer @48kRAM

Stallman has, at least from what I've seen, been the right amount of considerate and dismissive. He doesnt play into the games, but he seems to acknowledge the valid ethical concerns.

That said, its also possible he did something really shitty and I just missed it. So if there is a specific example of something shitty he did that warrants this sort of response I will happily review it and consider it to see if it changes my opinion (probably should have been part of this post to be honest).

But yea until someone actually provides some valid justification for this sort of reaction I hear this sort of stuff and I will just double down my support for stallman as a victim of a mob with pitchforks.

@freemo,
THANKS for the clarification in what sense qoto.org is a safe space.
I found it necessary to ask for
—and get—
your idea what constitutes sense of moderation in such matters as
@baldengineer @48kRAM

@tatzelbrumm

To be fair I am no dictator. I expressed my views of stallman, and it wasnt meant to represent QOTO's view. We create our rules as a community.

That said, I do think my opinion on stallman, specifically the whole "I need some evidence to judge someone" is fairly in line with the attitude we have here.

@baldengineer @48kRAM

"If you can't be kind to you fellow humans, then no amount of software will benefit the world, no matter its license." @48kRAM

so true and important, yet brushed to the sides so often.

@48kRAM this report is shocking. Even as a man, I'd felt that Stallman/FSF were very exclusionary, but it's still saddening to see just how evil Stallman really is. It's such a shame that people who had one good idea (if even) in technology become messiah and get into their own heads. (Makes me wonder what we don't know about Mullenweg just yet)

@48kRAM I've only skimmed this controversy, but it looks to me like a tempest in a teapot, heavily ginned up by the usual immature over-reaction of the online hivemind.

Y'all need to take a really deep breath, push away from the keyboard, have a really long walk in some place natural with not a lot of other people around and no distractions, and have a very long think about all of it.

@wesdym @48kRAM I do really need a walk after seeing people defend a disgusting creep
@lo What you need is to grow the hell up already.
@48kRAM And by the way, if we "stop harboring assholes", then we're ALL going to have to go, because guess what?