Avdi GrimmOct 13, 2024
The current chaos in WordPress caused by Matt seems like a good time to remind folks that the Mastodon “community” websites and trademarks are 100% owned by one man, despite pleas from current and former project members to make Mastodon a foundation with a board.
Show threadMagnus KI4OTKOct 13, 2024

@avdi I think one of the worst things to come out of the Twitter exodus was everyone thinking Mastodon *was* the Fediverse, and big instances are the way to go.

Still hoping some other #Fediverse platforms emerge that are operationally sane to deploy & maintain.

Show threadティージェーグレェOct 13, 2024

@ki4otk Right?

Mastodon is not the FediVerse, it's just an ActivityPub implementation.

Personally I think @grunfink's snac (https://codeberg.org/grunfink/snac2) has a lot more going for it.

But @peertube is pretty awesome for videos.

@avdi

snac2

A simple, minimalistic ActivityPub instance written in portable C

Codeberg.org
Show threadMagnus KI4OTKOct 13, 2024
@teajaygrey TBH this is still kind of weird that you have to build your own Docker containers. One litmus test for me is that the build instructions are basically to use a Docker image that's already out on a major repository, all config is externalized. This current approach looks like it requires too much effort to update regularly. @grunfink @peertube @avdi
Show threadティージェーグレェ

@ki4otk You mean with snac?

Docker containers are absolutely not necessary.

I am the MacPorts snac maintainer.

I have never used Docker with snac.

Heck, snac has even been known to build on Irix.

It's just C.

Note the section in the notes which mentioned Docker are for *testing* (which I consider different from prod).

No need to unnecessarily overcomplicate it.

Oct 13, 2024 at 5:39pmWeb
Show threadMagnus KI4OTKOct 13, 2024

@teajaygrey docker is kind of the de-facto standard for #selfhosting.

#fediverse apps have a really weird relationship with Docker that I just don't understand.

Show threadティージェーグレェOct 13, 2024
@ki4otk geeze I guess I'm just crazy since I've been self hosting things for decades before Docker even existed.
Show threadMagnus KI4OTKOct 13, 2024

@teajaygrey oh me too.

Since about '84 and the BBS scene.

But dockerized apps using commodity images make it stupid easy to self host *many* apps and keep them up to date without having to build from source.