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https://academic.oup.com/bioscience/advance-article/doi/10.1093/biosci/biae087/7808595?login=false#485024408

by Ripple, Wolf Rockström Rahmstorf Mann.

"this very shock drives us to action. We recognize the profound urgency [..]" for "a sufficiently high global carbon price". After which they acknowledge "unlimited growth is a perilous illusion".

Why the persistent illogic?

Isn't "this very shock" deep enough to let them see how a *fix* amount of sustainable ecocide and resources rationed via $$ is not working on citizen level? Humans aren't CEO of their household, their motivations and dependencies aren't tunnel vision profiteering.
The backlash of this suggestion: malign populists rejoice.

"Polluter pays" can't keep a budget. To guarantee keeping any budget, you must plan beforehand: who is going to do the reduction in resource use, when, and by how much.
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The 2024 state of the climate report: Perilous times on planet Earth

We are on the brink of an irreversible climate disaster. This is a global emergency beyond any doubt. Much of the very fabric of life on Earth is imperiled

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Show threadanlomedadOct 13, 2024

Even a poor drug addict facing soaring prices won't quit. He and his dealer will try all tricks to sustain his addiction. See picture 1 about the government project "SmokeFree New Zealand" and how both, the addicts and their dealers tried every trick in order to keep the addiction.
This is only a unhealthy addiction, not one where people must invest thousands of dollars up front to escape future price hikes. Must invest. Up front. It sounds logical to do it. But humans aren't household CEO. And malign media, malign politicians and malign industry are going to do everything in their power to profit from the inevitable public disgruntlement.

Real CEO also try all tricks to keep profiteering: the trade news outlet Handelsblatt applauds German #coal major #RWE for her stash of #ETS certs, allowing her to pollute beyond 2030 for free, with certs to spare to sell to the highest bidder, see picture 2.

That's how CEO addicts and the fossil lobby tricked politics into setting up EU ETS
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Show threadanlomedadOct 13, 2024

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Why do real scientists keep calling for this botched idea of "polluter pays", when what they hope for is keeping a FIX budget on sustainable ecocide and resource use?

Polluter pays can't deliver our high-risk project. The thought concept is fundamentally incompatible with #PlanetaryBoundaries.

The budgets are tiny for getting back into planetary boundaries and for keeping a manageable climate change.
So tiny that, if you allow rich polluters to just pay more for keeping addicted,
for not overstepping the fix budget, you must deprive poor polluters of living essentials.
That tiny!

It postpones the cultural acknowledgment of fix boundaries and fix budgets.
It implies ample wriggle room. It implies it won't matter if the budget is breeched – because we can simply pay a fine and all's well, can't we. 😁
Our high-risk project has no time for such idiocy.

Don't tout the eConomists' dearest toy.
Call for rationing. Rationing via $$ is only 1 way among several, but least compatible with the deadlines in our high-risk project.

This has worked 1939-1956:
https://rapidtransition.org/stories/when-everything-changed-the-us-uk-economies-in-world-war-ii/
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When everything changed: the US & UK economies in World War II

Both the United States and the United Kingdom has within living memory gone through a period of very rapid transition in terms of a huge reduction in the consumption of fuel and resources as part...

Show threadanlomedadOct 13, 2024

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During the Putler-caused #energy crisis, Minister #Habeck told SmallMediumBusiness leaders at a conference, 'price signals hurt but are better than a government saying which company gets resources and which won't.'
Speech May 2022:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0p2C_TByVg&t=1223s

So better go broke? Lay off truck drivers, keep food shelves empty?
Polluter pays, the market reacts, real people suffer?

Such callous, thoughtless idiocy is the very foundation of "polluter pays".

How's that better than an elected government organizing it so that important stuff still gets produced, no matter how high the pollution – while closing down car and yacht production lines, ending construction of single family homes, new roads, mere investment objects like office towers.
All the while keeping all people housed, fed and clothed. Like Churchill 1939-1956.

We do need to pollute for essentials for a bit longer, & continue ecocide for essentials.
But to keep in budget & in #PlanetaryBoundaries, we need governments to prioritize which goods are essentials and which aren't. Our high-risk project needs triage.

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Pressestatement nach dem Mittelstandsgipfel von Bundesminister Robert Habeck

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Show threadChristian SchwägerlOct 13, 2024
@anlomedad There is no fixed CO2 budget in ETS. There’s an annual reduction of 4.3% for how many licences are issued, trending towards zero. Already, companies are planning for the day when no new licences will be issued in late 2030s, and prepare for steep price increases leading up to that date. Hoarding eg by RWE simply postpones emissions over time with a financial benefit for the company but are a clear sign how emitting CO2 becomes increasingly unaffordable towards zero licences.
Show threadChristian SchwägerlOct 13, 2024
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Cap 2020: 1685
Cap 2024: 1386
Cap 2030: 825
https://www.umweltbundesamt.de/sites/default/files/medien/11850/publikationen/factsheet_cap_msr_2023_en_v2.pdf