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Nire Brycethe age of Move Fast and Break Things is over, and we now enter an age of Move Slow Within Broken Things
lotta replies seem to assume I entered the field yesterday and not that I've been influentially sleeping on couches in the tech field for over a decade
Irenes (many)@NireBryce you really have been doing that
V@NireBryce "influentially sleeping on couches" is a really good way to describe it lol.
what influence or how much has yet to be determined, of course
Glyph@NireBryce an incredible ELI5 explanation of kessler syndrome
@glyph *jumps across the room to press the emergency stop on the Lathe of Heaven before the changes get submitted to Time Git*
2xfoI thought I saw an xkcd comic about tech debt that showed it as uncleared material in a mine shaft that traps you when you strike water. I saw OP here and immediately thought of Kessler syndrome.
Putting these ideas together now (i won't be at all surprised if I've missed by a wide margin, but) i think I'm recognizing Kessler syndrome as a literal, physical form of tech debt
Sue is Writing Solarpunk 🌞🌱
@susankayequinn @NireBryce where can we get one of those
@ireneista I've gotten stickers *and* tshirts from them :)
@susankayequinn @NireBryce oooo thanks!
tunda@susankayequinn @ireneista @NireBryce
"Resist trends and useless upgrades! The fuel of our throwaway society."
don't buy usless stickers.
@tunda maybe don't hector people on the internet and just live your life the way you'd like?
@tunda @susankayequinn @NireBryce we agree with every principle on that list. we know how to stencil a slogan onto the back of our laptop with enamel paint if we choose to do that. we prefer to use vinyl stickers because they let us change our mind later.
Dave Carlson@tunda @susankayequinn @ireneista @NireBryce
make. copy. share.
@tunda
I'm not sure how that matches your point, can you explain better?
personalizing ones tools is deep in the DIY tradition
are you also going to tell pretty much all the punks with back patches on denim vests that they should hand weave their back patches instead of getting them as patches from someone with embroidery machines?
@NireBryce @ireneista Hi,
I didn't want to polemicize against the personalization of personal tools. But I did want to argue against plastic stickers that you have to make and can then buy. It is embedded in the capitalist logic of exploitation and commercialization. A kind of unnecessary consumption if you have too much money. That's my point from above. Do you need a sticker that says “I'm not a sticker”? My recommendation is to leave it alone, even if you would like to have it. best regards
@tunda @NireBryce it is embedded in that, sure. that's certainly true.
@tunda
using stickers or not isn't going to make a difference in plastic when the major companies are spilling plastic into rivers, dumping bottles in the ocean, using plastic instead of more expensive shipping materials, etc.
do you fight against zines because they encourage deforestation and paper production?
Environmentalism of abstinence at the individual level isn't going to do anything in the fight, even if we all stopped.
The sticker that's 0.01% of my plastic waste is not going to fix it when buying a vegetable is 8 times as much plastic if not more, they just take the shipping material off it before it's put out in the store display. Unavoidable for most.
bottling companies flood rivers with plastic pellets. it's a problem but yelling at individuals isn't gonna do much against that
The Doctor
Arcaik
💡𝚂𝗆𝖺𝗋𝗍𝗆𝖺𝗇 𝙰𝗉𝗉𝗌📱
Jeremy Kahn@trochee @susankayequinn @NireBryce see, we like it in the generic form "fix things" because if we had a personal statement of goals, that would be part of it. not fix our things specifically, just fix anything that needs fixing.
@ireneista
I need to figure out who made the Build For A Common Good micrometer-crossed-with-machining-hammer sticker because I need more
Matt Panaro@trochee @susankayequinn @NireBryce @ireneista Imma vote for, "Be a Maverick: TRY to do it right the FIRST time" 😜
k3ym𖺀@NireBryce I think you mean the age of, "move slow and attempt to use AI to fix the broken things"
Daniel Gibson
anderbill@NireBryce </mic drop> and 💥
Mercurius Goldstein@NireBryce
Step Gingerly Around All The Broken Shit Everywhere
Step Gingerly Around All The Broken Shit Everywhere
Geeden_Of_Arden@NireBryce Fast is slow; slow is fast
Angie
econads@angiebaby @NireBryce this panel also applies to people who try to start revolutions without a thought for the practicalities of building a new world after the old has been destroyed.
Bishop WhitewindI have to wonder why the two of you are using my replies as a place to posture
@NireBryce
My apologies, I will remove you from the @
Probably talking about something else because your original observation is depressing ;-)
Not that you don't have a right to make as many depressing observations as you wish.
My apologies, I will remove you from the @
Probably talking about something else because your original observation is depressing ;-)
Not that you don't have a right to make as many depressing observations as you wish.
@B_Whitewind
Sorry I didn't get that reference
Sorry I didn't get that reference
symbology.this cartoon describes my life and I don't like it.
Light Owl ☸️@angiebaby @NireBryce from "Lessons from History" by Will and Ariel Durant:
"Since wealth is an order and procedure of production and exchange rather than an accumulation of ... goods, and is a trust ... in men and institutions rather than in the intrinsic value of paper money or checks, violent revolutions do not so much redistribute wealth as destroy it.
There may be a redivision of the land, but the natural inequality of men soon re-creates an inequality of possessions and privileges, and raises to power a new minority with essentially the same instincts as in the old. The only real revolution is in the enlightenment of the mind and the improvement of character, the only real emancipation is individual, and the only real revolutionists are philosophers and saints."
"Since wealth is an order and procedure of production and exchange rather than an accumulation of ... goods, and is a trust ... in men and institutions rather than in the intrinsic value of paper money or checks, violent revolutions do not so much redistribute wealth as destroy it.
There may be a redivision of the land, but the natural inequality of men soon re-creates an inequality of possessions and privileges, and raises to power a new minority with essentially the same instincts as in the old. The only real revolution is in the enlightenment of the mind and the improvement of character, the only real emancipation is individual, and the only real revolutionists are philosophers and saints."
@sbb
sir, this is a Wendy's
sir, this is a Wendy's
1a (awawawawawa)@NireBryce a floor of glass shards
Joel VanderWerf@NireBryce
In 20th century America, you move fast and break things.
In 21st century America, things move fast and break you.
Earthling@NireBryce
Exactly! Which means we leave "fast breaking" patriarchy behind, sister!
Exactly! Which means we leave "fast breaking" patriarchy behind, sister!
mark@NireBryce i thought we were in break things cheaply
erik@NireBryce The phrase "move fast, break things" was jargon for "ship trash fast, fix the worst of it we must." We never got the budget to fix anything, and the trash kept on piling up.
@NireBryce watch your toes!
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.@NireBryce That's the alternate title for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Slow_Regard_of_Silent_Things
12 Freya it/its𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩@NireBryce NixOS is definitely move fast and break things.
Steven Hilton@NireBryce god dammit
Bill Zaumen@NireBryce Really! We just got new trains in our area - electric, with overhead wires like in other countries - and they bragged about their digital displays showing where you were and the next stop. We tried it twice - the first was an opening weekend freebee. On both days, some if not all of the digital displays had crashed. The error message said that chrome had run out of memory or a process had died. They can run chrome but never thought of monitoring it and restarting if necessary.
@NireBryce Then there's San Francisco's MUNI. On our 2nd trip, we saw a play and figured we'd take their $1.5+billion subway to the train station. Enough time based on the schedule, but the #@*($*@# idiots who designed it never though of putting a display outside the fare gates to let you know that they were going to be 7 minutes late. We missed our train by a minute and had to wait another 1/2 hour. If we had known, we could have run/jogged the 1.3 miles to get there on time.
@NireBryce Aside from their design, on the trip I mentioned, the thing popped up to street level 235 meters from the train station. With short blocks and traffic lights, the streetcars are slow. We ran/jogged from that point and kept up with the streetcar (and I'm almost 80 years old). But the streetcar had to go a 121 meters further, on the far side of a heavily used road, and would have dumped us out in the middle of the street so we might have had to wait for two traffic-signal changes.
John Abbe (aka Slow)@NireBryce A lot of people hear, "Stop!" when someone says, "slow" which is why it's so important to understand "enough."
You might also enjoy https://johnabbe.wagn.org/assumptions_of_power_with_culture
Óscar Morales Vivó@NireBryce tbh my experience has been that after the age of move fast and break things comes the age of move slow and keep breaking things.
Not really contradicting you there, but it’s kinda the part that infuriates me the most 😤