R. L. Dane 
Ladies and gentlenerds, it is with profound pleasure that I introduce to you,
Mira Delenn Furlan Dane
I don't know how but she already loves me.
It's truly amazing.
I feel guilty for taking up >14 MB on that last toot, but the downscaler on my phone didn't seem to have a batch mode. :(
But then again, I think Ad?min is def' gonna be ok with this one ;)
Amin Hollon 🏳That was the size downloaded (looking at /tmp/tutfile1111111yaddayadda.jpg)
Random aside, why the heck are people still enforcing three-letter extensions? That's so dumb. :P
Most clients show different images based on support and screen size I think. Tut downloads the maximum resolution every time.
Which would give a good idea of how much space it's using on the server, no?
@rl_dane
Sure, I guess. I worry more about bandwidth than storage space though.
Sure, I guess. I worry more about bandwidth than storage space though.
mirabilosIt's definitely generating some other stuff though, as I recall from the last time I looked through the files…
Hm maybe. It's been a while. I thought it was generating other formats too.
@amin @rl_dane haven’t seen that but don’t want to categorically exclude the posibility. I only ever saw it ship the original PNG/JPG and create a JPG thumbnail that sometimes was larger than the original PNG. They now switched to WebP, which nobody wants or can display except on vastly modern tech, but the principle is probably still the same.
DHeadshot's AltI'm not a fan of providing retronyms for abbreviations necessitated by crappy operating systems and/or crappy conventions.
It should always be .jpeg, in my book.
I'm used to it BUT WHY DOUGH
@rl_dane @mirabilos @amin I like the idea of my webpages being openable on DOS machines or Windows 3.11 and earlier...
I'd like someone to test whether or not a dos/win3.x machine can view a webpage ending in .html
I'm thinking it totally could, because it's not saving the entire filename locally. Even when cached it's probably saved to something like ABCD3991.HTM and has a db or lookup table or something.
Because even in the really early days of the web, individual web pages were often longer than 8 characters.
Could it visit a site like mine which has no file extensions but properly sends the content-type: text/html header?
Depends on what version of http that feature came from, and what the browser supports, I suppose.
It's in the HTTP 1.0 spec. 🤷♂️
https://www.w3.org/Protocols/HTTP/1.0/spec.html#Content-Type
Then hopefully so, but no idea for sure.
@rl_dane @mirabilos @amin As someone who once tried to get Viola running on a (then) modern(ish) computer, when you say you want to test it out, I worry about the world of pain you're walking into...
(DOS/Win16 browsers/Internet are much nicer now, but old ones were hard to set up then and are even harder to get working now).
Then it should be .htmf 😅
I still think three character extensions are a dumb constraint.
This ain't C/PM.
14, really?
I had always heard 255. How long ago was it 14?
Interesting. I'm guessing proper long file names was another #BSD innovation, then?
@mirabilos @amin @rl_dane Interestingly, some old 8.3 systems were really a char-limit of 12 total and just allowed 8.3 for compatibility.
I thought it was always just an 11 character filename and the fullstop was in a static position.
@rl_dane @mirabilos @amin Usually, yes. Some custom systems (such as the Amstrad NC series machines) just went with 11 or 12 chars total...
And if we’re talking the Unix world the file extensions are basically ignored anyway. It’s only on Windows that it actually matters.
With the latter I can add a .disabled or something to the end of a filename to keep it from being sourced, so that's what I'd do. If I wanted that.
Ehh, kinda.
Graphical file managers (Yes, I know the REALLY cool kids don't use 'em) use the extension to determine the mime type.
The craziest was classic Macintosh OS, which did not use extensions at all (and most applications (especially in the early days) did not create them). File type was determined by an invisible (kept in the fs metadata) case-sensitive four-character alphanumeric file type code, and file association was determined per file via a similar four-character creator code.
So a PNG you created in Photoshop would always open in Photoshop, and a PNG you opened in Illustrator would always open in Illustrator. And a file named "Mona Lisa" was just "Mona Lisa," not "Mona Lisa.JPG" or "mona_lisa.jpeg." Later Macintosh applications started adding extensions to standard files (like JPEGs) to ease compatibility with PCs, but most native Macintosh applications had no three-letter extension set or defined in any way.
Somehow, we never thought all that that odd in the least.
Modern MacOS is even weirder, using neither extension, MIME, nor type codes, but something else I don't know the name of (but it's strongly tied to extension and MIME type)
(Yes, I know the REALLY cool kids don't use 'em)
I don't use TUI ones either. :P
There are some workflows for which a GUI fm helps. For that, I use Dolphin.
But most of the time, I just use bash and a few custom scripts that make heavy use of fzf. ;)
Oh, and edir. That's super helpful.
True. I use vidir (from moreutils) now though, so I don't need to install via pipx.
I like vidir, but it doesn't use trash. I prefer to use the trash, just in case. ;)
I've stopped bothering with the trash. :P
I make backups for a reason. ;)
lol, same wavelength!
Well, at least you have borg. How often does yours run? I have mine set to 15 minutes, as the diffs are quite small.
Mine are hourly to multiple locations. Never losing more than an hour's work is an acceptable situation for me.
If you have 15-minute backups, why do you need the trashcan? 😂
Do not underestimate the POWAH of the dork side!!!!
@amin @mirabilos @rl_dane Only on the commandline - in graphical shells, the Unix world uses them for the icons.
It's RISCOS that ignores them pretty much entirely (I think?)...
I need to play with RiscOS.
I need to get a proper three-button (no wheel) mouse, first.