Tired still - SLRPNK

CPAP, bitches, get it!

but first see a doctor, maybe your sleep quality is bad due to different factors

Cpap doesn’t work for everyone, either. So donpt feel lile a failure when it actuallyakes your sleep quality worse.
I’m one of the unlucky ones that the cpap doesn’t magically fix everything. 😢
Samesies. Though I’ve been rather inconsistent with my usage. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Stress, poverty, poor health, overwork, poor mental health…
Definitely see a doctor first. While a CPAP machine can do wonders, it really only works for those who stop breathing. If you don’t stop breathing, it can actually do more harm to your sleep.

Especially if you know nothing about CPAP machines and your physician / pulmonologist select one for you and you get a Phillips one that turns out to rot from the inside and potentially send deadly material straight into your respiratory system.

I fully support CPAP use as recommended after a sleep study, but that was a poor investment by my insurance company.

Yeahhhhh my wife was on the fence about getting a CPAP for years. Finally got one and it dramatically helped! Until suddenly she got sick. And stayed sick until she stopped using it. Turns out it was the model you described and little shitty foam bits are not good for your lungs. Needless to say, she has not used any CPAP since. It sucks because even she said it helped, but she’s too scared of getting sick again to try a different kind.

Thanks medical capitalism!

After that happened, I purchased (out of pocket) one from Lofta and haven’t had any trouble since. CPAPs themselves are a very helpful treatment and I genuinely recommend a good one (again, assuming a sleep study supports the need).

Lofta also offers an at home study. Not sponsored or anything (I wish!), just have benefited from their product.

This mfer thinks we can afford a CPAP
My condolences, you must be American.
Hey, I’m am an American with a CPAP machine. I did get it when I was using that socialized medical world of the military though. 🤔
I have an older model in the back of a closet somewhere if it would help someone. It works. I upgraded to a newer model.

They aren’t that bad, if you have any insurance. Even medicare. The 20 percent we owe isn’t that horrible, and after the…2 year rental period we’ll just own it.

Do gotta use it like every night so medicare continues to pay its 80 percent though.

Disclaimer: I am not a doctor. Do not accept medical advice from a sentient piece of sci-fi machinery. Talk to your ship’s doctor instead.

I agree about different factors. Here are some things I’ve learned along that way that may helps folks here.

GERD might be a reasonable first diagnostic step: it can absolutely trash your sleep quality without mitigations. It’s common and relatively easy to combat.

Good sleep hygiene is another set of practical things anyone can do.

Re: CPAP - Obstructive sleep apnea is no joke. Fuck around and find out. And by “find out” I mean “wake up having a heart attack or stroke.”

How to Sleep Better with GERD

Is acid reflux interrupting your sleep? Learn how GERD can disrupt sleep, and what steps you can take to reduce it and get better sleep.

Sleep Foundation

be an introvert

Dream about talking to huge crowd of people

Wake up exhausted from talking to people

Just dream about sleeping and being well rested afterwards while taking a power nap. Ezpz.
The worst is when you dream about not being able to sleep, so even though you slept you feel like you didn’t

7 hours

One of my college roommates only needed six hours.

Jokes on him, he got to hear me hit the snooze for an hour every day.

I don’t only need six hours, but it’s all my body allows me to get lately.
Yeah, I straight up cannot just sleep in. If I lay there extra, things just start to hurt, like my body’s saying “Get up, you have shit to do.”
Right. My wife and my daughter will sleep all morning. I’m up at 6 at the very latest. If I’m lucky.

Last year I discovered what 7/8h of sleep felt like thanks to horse adapted amounts of sleeping medication (120mg of Miamserine, 500mg of quetiapine, some THC).

Before that I was used to 5/6h on the regular and 1/3h when it got worse.

I don’t really understand how I have functionned all these years with that much sleep deprivation.

I’ve been on various types of sleep medication, although those sound like newer ones than when I was trying them years ago- every single one of them left me drowsy in the morning. Some for half the day. It was even worse than just not getting a full 8 hours.

And OTC stuff? Forget it. If I take some NyQuil, I basically will be unable to do much but sit there in a haze for the next 18 hours or so.

Yeah these are pretty newish. It might also not be what they’re called in your country.

My main issue with otc stuff is that it tended to make me drowsy but still unable to sleep …

I’ll talk to my neurologist about them next time I see her. Thanks.

To give you slightly more information:

I checked and both names are generic.

Mianserine is an antidepressant but can be used at lower dosages as a sleeping aid. I noticed that it helps me go to bed.

Quetiapine is an antipsychotic. It is also used as a sleeping aid at lower dosages but I have seen counterindications on account of the heavier side effects. I noticed that it didn’t make me that sleepy but it keeps me from waking up every few hours and helps me go back to sleep when I do wake up. A few friends of mine find the hypnotic effects too intense and need to take it at the end of the afternoon in order to hear their alarms in the morning.

Hooray, already on both of those types of drugs for other reasons (not mental health, a nerve disorder). So they probably won’t help. Thanks though!

They still might.

For example some antidepressants tend to give a bit of a jolt (e.g. fluoxetine) and are usually taken in the morning.

Most of the time you get some SSRIs as a first antidepressant which usually wake people up. Mianserine is a tetracyclic AD with a whole different set of effects.

I practically ran on 2-4 hours from 16-30.

I have a lot to show for it, but I should have stopped after 30.

Is one of the things you have to show for it premature aging?

I’m currently treating sleep apnea, because of a lifelong abuse of my sleep cycle.

I’m also dealing with issues with my heart because of the apnea and pushing my body so far without resting properly.

I’ve likely stolen a decade or more from my life all because I refused to sleep just to “get ahead”.

you young folk take note. sleep well, eat well, live well. you do those things and you shouldn’t need to live with a weight on your chest until you die. every hour I’m reminded how fragile I am, and trust me when I say I was fucking invincible in my youth…just like you feel. go head, set a timer in your phone to go off every hour that asks if you’re going to see tomorrow.

Add to my list of evidence against intelligent design.
Drag thinks humanity was created by the gods. Drag also thinks the gods are stupid. 13.7 billion years and the best those fuckers could come up with was evolution? What a joke!
Intelligent design, but the designer was on a tight schedule and had to ship the MVP
The designer didn’t sleep for 3 days themselves. Gonna make some mistakes with that kinda lack of sleep
This is what post-sale firmware updates are for. Gotta test in prod!
Plot twist: the DNA firmware updates are also viruses.
That covid-19 update was crazy. Not sure I trust the devs after that. Maybe adding air gaps would be a good idea.
Intelligent design but the budget was managed by an insurance company.

I’m with you there.

If this ::wildly points at self:: is intelligent design, then said intelligence clearly adhered to a strict “just barely good enough to survive and move genes around” work ethos. That, or over-doing it wasn’t going to fit into the time and materials budget.

Don’t forget the absolutely deranged path wour vagal nerve takes through your torsoe because fish didn’t have necks and we do.
Which isn’t even half as insane as what it does in a giraffe

To be fair, it’s called “intelligent”, not “omnipotent” design, but still.

Those types always claim omnipotency as well. So you’d expect an omnipotent being to make it perfect for everyone. Since it isn’t, the being’s either ignorant or sadist. Or, wait for it - a fucking fairy tale. And with ignorancy one can hardly claim a respectable level of intelligence.

You were born to die as a soldier at 25

“Ugh, I feel like garbage.”

“You must have slept wrong.”

“WHY is that POSSIBLE?”

Could just be dehydration. Drink some water in the morming and see if that helps.
Then I wake up to pee
Get a home sleep study. Insurance covers a CPAP with Dr prescription. But mental hurdle but man waking up fresh is worth it
I’m American. What insurance?
This might be a self love issue
What are you talking about? I love myself for 3 minutes before bed every night

I used to wake up energized about twice per year. These last few years I always wake up tired.

I’ve had sleep apnea tests (I dont have it).

I stopped drinking alcohol, ironically a lot of the ‘hangovers’ I had appear to be how I wake up without drinking too.

I drink about 1l of water before bed. If I dont, I get let cramps when asleep.

I eat multivitamins daily with addition iron and vitamin D.

I used to drink a lot of coffee but now can’t stomach the stuff.

I went caffeine free for months and it didnt help.

I’m completely screws lol :D

Not to preach to the choir, but my sleep quality improved greatly when I started a very physical job. Not to say you have to do that, but moving around can be very beneficial

Thanks for the help!

I’ve worked out 5 days a week, 3 days weights, 2 days cardio with no noticeable impact.

I’m glad it worked for you :)

Not to seem like an ad, but buying a cooling pod for my bed was game changer. I used to sleep like a rotisserie chicken and was always tired. Now I cool my bed all night and not only have the corners of my sheets stayed put but I’m just significantly less tired all around.
That sounds pleasant but I’d need a tiny oven for my feet.
Does the cool blanket check your body temp and switch on/off?
It does! I didn’t think I would need it at first cause I wanted the cold cold the whole night, but to be honest it was too cold haha.