Mastodawn

Oct 4, 2024

Half of all science publishers quit within 10 years. Women quit more than men. Bunch of quitters!

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03222-7

🤔Quit? Or were driven out?

My favorite* part is that women in CompSci, Engineering, Math, and Physics, are less likely to stop publishing than women in less sexist academic fields. Possibly because we run young girls in Math/CS/Eng/Physics through a sexism gauntlet from day 1, so by the time they're grown women the survivors cope with gendered hostility better.😮

(*Least)

Nearly 50% of researchers quit science within a decade, huge study reveals

Twenty years of publishing data across many countries and disciplines show women are more likely than men to leave research.

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Colm Ó Donnchadha Oct 4, 2024

@mekkaokereke I think there's a lot of extrapolation going on, lots of students publish and then move to industry post graduation, where they won't publish ?

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Michael Busch Oct 4, 2024

@ColmDonoghue I personally have seen far too many cases where students might want to stay in research positions or go into teaching; but have to take higher-paying industry jobs because they need to pay down student loans.

One student took a job with McKinsey - knowing just how evil that company has been - because they needed the money.

They quit as soon as they could afford to.

This operates at the same time as systemic sexism & racism in academia, as @mekkaokereke rightly pointed out.

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Jenny Fx Oct 5, 2024

@michael_w_busch @ColmDonoghue @mekkaokereke my senior was really interested in majoring in physics in college. He wanted to be a researcher- until he looked at the potential salaries.

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Michael Busch

@urbanfoxe @ColmDonoghue @mekkaokereke Researcher salaries for physics majors are often quite high, but not necessarily for research in physics.

Unless one is willing to work on weapons projects; which I as a physics major was not but which some of my classmates in undergrad were - or were pressured into for financial reasons.