Half of all science publishers quit within 10 years. Women quit more than men. Bunch of quitters!

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03222-7

🤔Quit? Or were driven out?

My favorite* part is that women in CompSci, Engineering, Math, and Physics, are less likely to stop publishing than women in less sexist academic fields. Possibly because we run young girls in Math/CS/Eng/Physics through a sexism gauntlet from day 1, so by the time they're grown women the survivors cope with gendered hostility better.😮

(*Least)

Nearly 50% of researchers quit science within a decade, huge study reveals

Twenty years of publishing data across many countries and disciplines show women are more likely than men to leave research.

@mekkaokereke I think there's a lot of extrapolation going on, lots of students publish and then move to industry post graduation, where they won't publish ?

@ColmDonoghue

Cool cool.

And why did they move to industry? What is the top reason that women leave academia?

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-03251-8

I bring this up, because many graduate students, especially women, choose to go into industry rather than stay in academia where they might keep publishing, to avoid the toxic environment. Others make the industry choice for financial reasons.

Toxic workplaces are the main reason women leave academic jobs

Women feel driven out by problems with workplace culture more often than by lack of work–life balance.

@mekkaokereke @ColmDonoghue

Whenever women and academia comes up as a topic, I’m reminded of Katalin Karikó, 2023 Nobel prize winner and demoted professor whose MRNA research enabled Covid and other vaccine delivery
- https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/2023/press-release/
- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katalin_Karik%C3%B3
Press release: The Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine 2023 - NobelPrize.org

NobelPrize.org

THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS!!!

🗣️ AM STILL MAD ABOUT IT!!!
https://mastodon.social/@blogdiva/111165989366187891

and yes, i am one of those women who were harassed, overworked and traumatized out of academia. and am still mad about it.

@dahukanna @mekkaokereke @ColmDonoghue

Irene Zhang (@[email protected])

Attention to my faculty friends: The University of Washington Allen School of CSE is an unsafe environment for women, so as grad application season starts, please tell your students not to apply. There are at least 3 men in the systems lab that have sexually harassed numerous women and they continue to do so. More details below: It has been 3 months since the women of the UW systems lab sent a letter detailing three incidents of sexual harassment and bullying. The university has bounced them from the Title IX office to HR with no resolution. There is an ongoing HR investigation with the women handing over dozens of incidents and pages of documentation (emails, text messages). At least one of the men has been documented to be physically violent, and he has sexually harassed women across the department, not just in the lab. Despite this, the women of the lab have been forced to leave their coworking space, leaving them in a precarious position where they must risk interacting with violent men. The systems lab is still holding lab events with the men actively under investigation. The Allen School has become a place where women are AFRAID to go to work and at least three women have been driven out due to harassment. If you know women who are thinking of attending grad school, tell them to avoid UW, especially in systems. I’m happy to put them in touch with the women of the UW systems lab or discuss alternate options with them.

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@mekkaokereke @ColmDonoghue And academia in general is a toxic work environment to start with - how much worse must it be for those who are actively discriminated against.