People focus on Hitler and Nazi leaders and the atrocious lethal lies they told to justify the mass murder of Jews.

But they should focus also on the willingness of very many people to believe those lies, to cheer and assist as their Jewish neighbors were rounded up and sent to their deaths.

The problem is never just the Hitlers, the Nazis. The problem is us, many of us — our propensity to stigmatize and hate.

#Trump #Republicans #Hitler #Nazis #immigrants #BloodLibel #PoliticsofHate
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@wdlindsy How do you suggest should people focus on people who believe those lies?

Wat I think is the best we can try to do is never to ostracise them (it would just spin the same wheel), but rather to inform about lies, to listen to their real worries and focus on what unites.

@kmetz I think it's not possible to convince some people that they are being lied to and are succumbing to lies. A certain cultic mentality assures that some people are impervious to truth, fact, reason. They have ostracized themselves by placing themselves in a cultic shell where nothing beyond cultic "truth" reaches them.

@wdlindsy Yes. Trying to convince people by reason can even drive them in further. Ostracising does too, obviously, it reaffirms a „us vs. them“ cult mentality and is exactly what cult leaders are looking for. People often got trapped by propaganda, instead of having made a sane decision to join a cult. It‘s brainwashing.

What can help is expertise from cult counseling, listening to what quitters say.

@wdlindsy What I gathered from cult experts over the years comes down to–
Not talking about it much, other than placing seeds of doubt. Instead, talking about normal, positive things, common interests, sports, hobbies, shared experiences from the past, etc. And that members always carry a scepticism or suspicions against their cult, which grows bigger, the less „cult content“ they are constantly surrounded with or have in mind (incl. any counterarguments). People can only leave on their own.
@kmetz Yes, I think there's a "gateway" aspect to cults, in which people are groomed by being shown a benign side of the cult they may eventually join. And I agree that they can get out only on their own (though often with assistance from other former members).

@wdlindsy Yes. Former members are so important to society.

I also see real evil recruitment tactics being used by those cults. They are fishing for fearful, vulnerable people, and for that are trying to fuel any perceived vulnerability, like constantly downtalking the economy (and a lot more, I don‘t even want to).
It reminds of 1920 Fascists and Marxists who believed making things worse for others would be some sort of „neccessity“. Such movements tend to self-corrupt and thus fail, luckily.

@kmetz Yes, I agree. You're making very good points in these statements.
@wdlindsy Thank you.