ScrubblesWon't someone please think of the boomers?!
HorreCHow dare someone elses wants effect me!!
DruidBoohoo
Yeah cuz they’re hoarding the houses.
AmbiguousPropsIn another timeline where boomers didn’t destroy the housing market, didn’t ignore climate change, and didn’t continue to vote for regressive policies, maybe they’d have grandchildren.
ComradeSharkfuckerI’m sorry but the collapse of the housing market and lack of action against climate change has way more to do with the commodification/privitization of housing and energy (as well as labor exploitation in the case of fossil fuels) than some arbitrary generational definition.
Don’t let yourself be convinced to blame fellow workers for the consequences of corporate and state action.
My point was that they’ve continually voted against their own interests (and against the interests of the rest of their class, which is why they now don’t have grandchildren). I will continue to blame them for that at the very least, as they’re continually proven that they enjoy the corporate and state inaction.
It should also be noted that this is a post about boomers, so of course people are going to bring them up in the comments.
It should also be noted that this is a post about boomers, so of course people are going to bring them up in the comments.
Of course and I expected that. I only bothered commenting because I see a lot of media attempting to use boomers as a scapegoat for severe structural issues. I feel it is our responsibility to rebuke this reactionary rhetoric when we see it. Yes boomers often vote against their own class interest but we must also understand they grew up in a time where propaganda was rapidly becoming more effective and increasingly privatized. Which is to say that the propaganda machine served the rich and their interest. They are severely brainwashed especially in the imperial core. Its easy to be angry at them for letting this happen but we must remember who did the brainwashing. Falling for their scapegoats makes us like dogs fighting over bones thrown by meat
I was told it’s all those immigrants vault. It was on my TV last night so it must be true!
You’re being charitable. You need to remind yourself though that pretty much all of them voted for Reagan because Carter had the audacity to say that we can fix a lot of problems by consuming less. This was a generation that fully believed that they could do a consumerism without end.
acargitzAt some point, us millennials need to also start taking that responsibility. Our oldest cohort is definitely at an age where we are starting to take over power. We won’t be able to blame boomers for shit for long.
I want the lions share of the profits of our economy! I want to pull the ladder up behind me! Why aren’t these lazy millennials having kids for me!?
You’re entitled millennials!
/Vomit
mojofrododojoyou fucking millennials and your avocado toast cost me grandbebbies!
Mab_813Some people seem to assume it's their right to become grandparents...
Dr. WeskerThe most important generation.
This shit is so dumb. “Anyone older than me is a Boomer!”
Boomers have been grandparents for some time. GenX as well in many cases.
Correct. Boomers are 60 to 80 now. Them getting grandparents is pretty much over. X is 45 to 60, this is about them, they are in prime grandparents age.
I think the point is that boomers are now 60 to 80, and some of their their children are reaching their 40s without yet having kids, and the boomers are finally realizing it isn’t gonna happen.
The “prime grandparenting age” part is just headline fluff.
44 to 60 thank you. I aint no goddam millennial.
The numbers are not hard, sorry mate, there is overlap.
According to Pew, 85% of Gen X women have had at least one child. This is just boomer doomism.
SharkEatingBreakfastYoung folks have been priced out of housing & healthcare, you can be fired from your job on a whim, food is astronomically expensive, the political climate is tense, your basic human rights could be rescinded at any time, the future of the planet is being murdered by shitty capitalists with 0 regard for human life…
I mean, who wouldn’t want to bring a child into this world right now?
Eat shit.
I’m hunting for a new job for the second time in less than a year, and I’m honestly a skilled professional with over 10 years of experience, with a lot of proof that I do great work. The labor market is stupid right now, just down right stupid. Full of executives searching for short term profits rather than anyone wanting to actually run a company well. That’s alone is a huge reason, on top of everything else. I don’t even know if I’ll have stable employment, and that means I don’t know if I’ll have stable health insurance - so genuinely what are any actual incentives to my generation to have kids? Literally are there any beyond just “you have a kid now”
It’s shit, right? I’m so sorry. I hope that stability comes to you very soon.
Reject tradition. You have no obligation to sacrifice your well-being because some old, out-of-touch fuckwads want something life-changing from you. Can’t even afford groceries.
They can foster a child if they want one around so badly. Or go sit at a park. Or volunteer at the church nursery or something, ffs.
bingo. The SO and I have talked about it, and we decided if we regret it a bit later and it’s too late, adoption is always a valid choice. After all, we’re not bringing new life in so we don’t have to feel guilty about that, but instead we would be giving a home to someone else who needs one. However, there are still many, many negatives as to why we don’t want to or simply can’t right now.
I’m a software engineer currently trying to find employment, and it’s so bad I’m wondering if I’ll just have to do something else for a while.
My last company basically fired all their US devs, and outsourced to foreign countries for cheaper.
I am a computing director. My take: software dev has been over saturated for the last 12-15 years but people keep seeing dollar signs in their eyes. My advice: learn a business skill like project management. It will allow you to work in any location.
I have 7 years professional experience, and I’m even getting passed over for positions listed as requiring 1-3 years. It’s wild right now.
I’m thinking about just going back to school, while the market is complete shit.
That works too. A degree is a reset button on your career. I’d suggest either specializing in something niche to make you more desirable or doing something very different so that you have more options.
There are always different parts of the stack to work in. I started in the scripting/database land. Then, moved to general application dev with a side of web. Now, I do embedded. Never stop learning ;]
What languages/specialties, Doc?
Backend and platform/devops. I’ve worked a lot in Python, building out APIs from the ground up. Lots of cloud and serverless stuff. That being said, is only the most recent fraction of my resume.
I’ll keep an ear out and DM you if I hear of anything. I know that my company is currently really only hiring in APAC but, that might change in a few months.
Hey, thanks! I appreciate it, even just the thought.
Not a worry! We’re all in this together.
The parts of the world with the most population growth are generally also the poorest. Richer countries have fewer children, and within those countries richer people have fewer children.
I’m not saying that your concerns about your quality of life aren’t valid, but they don’t explain this phenomenon.
Kids are a retirement strategy in poorer countries, they are the opposite in richer ones.
In which country?
Retirement strategy?
China, India, Syria…
China? Country with oneof the lowest birth rates for a developed economy?
India? With barely replacement rate
Today, the average Indian woman is expected to have 2.0 children in her lifetime, a fertility rate that is higher than China’s (1.2) or the United States’ (1.6),
Syria that has been a global battle ground without functioning healthcare system?
I doubt any body deciding much about anything about family planning and they sure as fuck ain't worried about retirement.
Are you reposting some idea I heard in 2005 in 2024?
Why the fuck would China or India need to meet replacement rates? They’re the most overpopulated places on Earth. This is called progress.
owenfromcanadaShouldn’t 'ave fucked up the economy and environment, simple as
Elder millennial here. I had kids, my brother didn’t, and my kids, though young enough to change their minds, are adamant they won’t have kids.
I think the more interesting stat likely unfolding is the marked decrease of great grandparents in a generation.
To be clear this is not a “threat to society” or whatever, people can decide if they want kids or not. Just a shower thought.
The real solution has always been immigration to get more bodies in the country managing the economy. It’ll never happen though.
It’ll never happen though.
Lolwat?
To replace the existing population, you have to throw open the gates and let people in. No country is willing to do that.
Annual migration rate into the US doubled since covid... Canada UK and AU experiencing similar spikes is my understanding.
What's really you talking about?
You’re listening to too much right-wing media. In fact, deportations have increased under Biden compared to Trump.
Ohh rly...
What was annual migrant I flow between 2000-20...
What is the avg migrant inflow post covid...
Basic Data anyone can check.
Also deportation argument is giant redherring.
Only number that matters is net... And I doubt they are deproting enough to offset the raise in imports.
So let's talk numbers...
You didn’t put in any numbers which means you don’t have them. You’re being oppositional for opposition’s sake and are not worth further engagement. /out
CBO came up with its own population estimates by combining data from Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) with Census Bureau data.
CBO estimated that net immigration was 2.67 million immigrants in 2022, and 3.3 million immigrants in 2023, the highest in its data going back to 2000, and about triple the average rate between 2000 and 2021 (1.05 million immigrants per year).
But the Census Bureau has failed to account for the huge influx of immigrants
So tell me now how you were talking out of your ass on a topic you know nothing about while accusing me of being "right wing"
Clown fucking discussion. Get better.
And the reason why you can’t be conversed with is that you are in it for the attack. I have an opinion and your response is “NOOO YOU ARE WRONG BECAUSE OF NUMBERS” as if I don’t have a right to believe what I believe. Then you made it personal on multiple occasions. What is really happening here is that someone has an opinion that bothers you and you feel insecure as a result and need to attack.
Having sent this message, I will now block you to make sure I never have to encounter you again.
Canada is literally doing that. We’ve let in almost 2 million Indian immigrants in the last year alone and it’s destroying our economy.
www.statista.com/topics/…/immigration-in-canada/
We have not let in 2 million immigrants in total in any year, let alone just indian ones. Maybe fact-check your stuff before spouting it off?
And no, immigration did not grow by 4x compared to last year. That’s absurd.
trainsaresexyDoesn’t that just kick the can down the road?
No. The world population will hit 10 billion in the year 2040. The only question is whether there will be enough people to keep the first world going or not.
Take a look at what the Canadian government is doing, and tell me it’s a good idea.
samus12345Guess you shouldn’t have been entitled little shits and fucked up the world, then.
randomdeadguySo the share that has grandkids is the share that can afford them, right?
Wouldn’t this be prime age for boomers to be great grandparents? Unless they mean paying for their grandkids college…
Boomers are 1946-1964. Definitely the older in the generation are in the great grandparent years, especially if they and their kids had kids young, but the younger boomers, especially if they and their kids had their first kids later, will be grandparents.