return2ozmaIsraeli military says Iran has fired missiles at Israel
Flying SquidThe BBC has some video. Looks like some missiles are being intercepted, some hitting.
BBC: “celebratory gunfire” in Beiruit.
What a fucked up part of the world.
Edit: the celebratory part isn’t fucked up. The doing it by shooting guns in the air is.
SundialI mean I get where you’re coming from but you can’t honestly expect the people of Lebanon to be sympathetic to the Israeli’s given the events of the past 2 weeks.
Hezbollah have had this coming, they fired rockets at Israel on October 8th. So not because of what Israel was doing to the Palestinians, but in support of what Hamas did on October 7th.
The moment the first news dropped on October 7 it was clear Israel was to retaliate with a bloodbath and they started bombing Gaza the same evening. If Hezbollahs goal at the time was to make use of the situation, they would have went for an all out attack while IDF was in disarray.
The goal was to increase the pressure on Israel for reaching a cease-fire agreement through keeping their northern settlers out of their settlements, rendering the region economically inactive and the settlers angry at their government.
It seems like no one anticipated this to go into a yearlong war. Initially Hamas seemed to have aimed to reach a ceasefire quickly through a hostage exchange deal, but Israel put genocide over having their hostages return alive.
There’s been no evidence of genocide. I have plenty of criticisms of the Israeli government, and if you were arguing it’s indiscriminate you’d have a point. But genocide? No. We don’t call Hiroshima a genocide and that was far worse than what’s happening in Gaza. We don’t call Dresden a genocide. We don’t call shock and awe in Iraq a genocide.
Words have meaning.
Rights expert finds ‘reasonable grounds’ genocide is being committed in Gaza: news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1147976
Human Rights Watch founder accuses Israel of genocide: www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0j1rk0c
A top U.N. court says Gaza genocide is ‘plausible’ but does not order cease-fire: npr.org/…/icj-israel-genocide-gaza-palestinians-s…
Rights expert finds ‘reasonable grounds’ genocide is being committed in Gaza
There are "reasonable grounds" to believe that Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians in Gaza, the UN Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Occupied Palestinian Territories said on Tuesday.
The rate of bombing in Gaza has drastically slowed compared to the opening stages of the war. Israel can be accused of being too blase about civilian death, but there is no evidence of systematic attempts to eradicate the Arab population entirely. I have yet to see any credible evidence of anything but Israel having a disturbing willingness to kill 10 to get 1, if you get me. That’s horrific enough, you don’t need to exaggerate it by calling it genocide. There’s plenty of legitimate enough concerns about Israel’s bombing campaign without resorting to sensationalism.
Huge, huge, difference between not caring if you hit the next building by accident in an otherwise precise airstrike, and rounding up and killing them all. You should account for the inherent destructiveness of modern urban warfare also. Go on google earth and look at what the Russians did to cities in East Ukraine. Just because something is horrible, tragic, awful, doesn’t make it a genocide. It is impossible to fight a war against an entity like Hamas and not have innocent people hit in the crossfire. Israel is in an unwinnable position in that sense. It either lets hamas terrorize it’s population, or it fires back and risks killing innocent people.
It’s a complex situation is what I’m getting it. Let’s not pretend it’s anything else to suit some juvenile good/bad narrative
Juvenile? I gave you expert opinions.
And I have good reason to believe they are wrong.
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Which is what? What expert opinion do you have? Or is this one of these “I know better than the experts” things?
Half a million other experts on the internet.
I said my bit, look up what’s in it yourself.
Except they aren’t experts. People who work for the UN and Human Rights Watch are. I’m not sure why you are equating random internet commenters to them. That’s highly dishonest. It’s like saying that you know more about the brain than a neurologist because a lot of internet commenters agree with you. The universe doesn’t work that way.
I’m not going to get into the internal politics of the UN or the shit track record when it comes to accuracy that the activist wing has. Fact is you and me both know you can find a source that says anything you want. It’s irrelevant and boring on top of that. I’m not doing homework for you.
I gave you a couple paragraphs explaining my reasoning. Now if you want to talk about that then fine
Again, I didn’t just give you the UN.
And you have not found any sources at all. But I get it that you think you know better than any of those dumb experts with their stupid university degrees.
I actually have one of those stupid degrees.
Jokes on you, I was an expert all along
You don’t, but you do have one more post to convince me you’re not a troll.