This week I predict there will be a lot of f**ked off astrologers

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This week I predict there will be a lot of f**ked off astrologers - Lemmy.World

Astrology is so stupid! That’s why I only practice geomancy, the true divination art.
Geomancy is just applied numerology.
And physics is just applied maths. I feel like the number lobby is trying to sell us more numbers.
That’s how we’ll eventually run out of numbers. And then what? Sell some imaginary ones?
I don’t know. There’s an awful lot of numbers out there.
Leaving this here XKCD.
Purity

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And the extended edition:

Hey kid, wanna buy a square root of minus one? It fucks you uppppp
I think it might be closer to applied Sacred Geometry.
I think that’s earthbending
Pffft. Molybdomancy is the one true divination form.
I’ve always been a fan of tyromancy.
my zodiac sign is Barnum effect
Barnum effect - Wikipedia

I’m a Cordova
Is your leather fine, rich or soft?
Usually fine, but when Mercury is in retrograde it becomes rich.
Wait, they all did 5 out of 12? That means you can make statistical predictions with astrology by selecting the opposite of what the astrologer predicts!
Nobody did better than 5/12.
Your allowed to say “fucked” on the internet
“B******” however is strictly forbidden.

Bananas?

Boufles

Boredom?

Bonking?

Between?

And you better never call anyone a X**.
That’s allowed in real live, though, isn’t it?
That’s exactly what I was waiting for. Typical x**.

I thought it might come under “Keep it civil” :)

Also “no unnecessary negativity”?

Astrologers fucking off would be a big enough positive to justify the profanity.

Not censoring yourself and giving a hint that you’re not a bot is enough to justify profanity.

Fuck

We’re all adults here, the context is perfectly civil in my book. Never censor yourself, you’re not a newspaper subject to broadcasting regulations. If you want to be profane then go fucking nuts!
They will interpret these results in the manner that seems best to them:-).

Wait… they gave all the participants the same reading? So all of their conclusions are based on the reading of a single person, which may or may not be accurately represented?

I’m not one for astrology, but this seems like r/atheism level science glazing for a fairly unscientific analysis.

That was a separate experiment.
Ah I see, there were 12 readings. My mistake.
I jokingly trolled an astrology forum that were giving their predictions for 2020 with “hindsight is 2020”
I wonder what kind of person calls themselves a “world class expert” in astrology.
Probably exactly the kind you’d expect.
Looks like technically any of us can.
You know, I’m something of a galaxy-class expert astrologist myself.
Oh yeah? Well I’m a universe-class master astrologer, third degree.
The stars of the profession?
People with planet sized egos?
People you shouldn’t trust.
An astrologist. 🤣
A woman predicted the exact date Biden would step down a few weeks before it happened. She claims to be a world class astrologist. People sort of viewed this as a wow moment. Completely ignoring the fact that it’s been talked about that he might not re run if he won in 2020 (which I think was actually a misquote, but ultimately irrelevant for this discussion). There had been a lot of talk and push for him to step down, especially in the month or so prior to it happening. That someone sort of recognized all this but claimed the stars gave them the exact date is such an obvious Occam’s razor moment lol but people really did believe she was a master level astrologer.
Survivorship bias? Hundreds of other “astrologists” probably tried predicting it too but guessed wrong

Incredible number of expert astrologers out there

My sister. Last year she begged me to do my charts for the next year. Said I would be happily married and on my way to the EU in a new job.

I’m divorced and unemployed. But hey, good news is she’ll do my charts over.

I wonder if there is some benefit from the clients interpretation of the reading, even though the reading itself is nonsense. In the same way someone can flip a coin to help you make a decision, and you realise from your gut reaction what you actually wanted to do all along, but weren’t consciously aware of

yeah and don’t forget the placebo effect

“today’s gonna be a good day for you”

this is definitely the answer, and i don’t get why people are so aggressive about shitting on people who just want a bit of fake mysticism in their lives. literally not hurting anyone to look at the stars and feel stuff
Until they charge $300 for a three hour reading, without disclosing the price or the time beforehand. And refer to all women as “goddesses”. And ask for tastes of four different types of wine before getting the same thing they always get.

I used to work in a shop that could easily be described as “New Age” and it has a tarot reader there. Having looked at the history of tarot but being a complete sceptic, I asked for a reading one time to see for myself how they go.

Afterwards I asked her “it’s a light therapy session, isn’t it?” She responded “mostly.”

That’s pretty much what it is, cheap, basic therapy to help you sort through your thoughts, and shares some similarities with CBT. I’d still recommend therapy if you need it, but I don’t mind people going to a tarot reader if that’s what helps them. But I still think the mysticism side of it can be a problem for a variety of reasons.

Yeah, that’s really all it is. It gets much more questionable and problematic when it’s things like people claiming to channel dead loved ones.
Yup that’s exactly what pissed off Houdini so much that he ended his friendship with Arthur Conan Doyle.
Oh, 100 percent. There’s much healthier ways to deal with that kind of grief.

One of my wife’s former coworkers said she needed to stop looking into astrology, so I think some people definitely can get into it too much and worry too much about predictions, but on the whole I don’t think astrology (specifically) is problematic as a whole.

But it is interesting that it does cause some people to discriminate against others based on their birthdays lol.

Even at its most harmless, astrology normalizes magical thinking and leaves the door open for more predatory things. Not that big a leap to alternative healing and psychics and other conmen persuading the naive away from legitimate help.