I’m at #Innotrans all day. I’ll sporadically post in this thread.

First impression: CRRC (Chinese manufacturer) has the main advert at Messe Süd

The industrial saboteurs are here #Innotrans
And here it is! The most stupid rail vehicle currently produced. A hydrogen tram 🤬 Hyundai-Rotem #Innotrans
The Talgo electric locomotive for DB - series 105 - is here. They didn’t already build 19 of these I hope? 🤔 #Innotrans
Končar has a battery electric multiple unit here. That seems to charge only from a cable, not from an overhead wire in a terminus #Innotrans

@jon hmmn interesting: let's say those two chargers are two beefy 150KW ones, 736KWH charging at 300KW at 100% efficiency with no power usage while charging would take about 2,5 hours. Half that if there are also two chargers at the other end. What kind of trips are they planning? I _suppose_ there might be a use case for rural branch lines with low speeds and long turn around times?

Comparably the charge time of a flirt Akku is 15 mins under Catenary (source: Stadler). Thanks for sharing!

@jelle I think around Split or Osijek this might make sense? Perhaps it’s ok in the Croatian context.
@jon I remember a similar type of discussion when electric busses got implemented. Both transport agencies and governments pushed for tons of fast charging points, which are now not always used as much (NL). But I doubt that a train could make it through the day in a similar fashion. Maybe have an hourly frequency during the day, doubling that by overlapping shifts of the trains in rush hour? This is already done with diesel trains, maybe it works with BMUs but just with longer wait times?
@jon @jelle Yeah, given how many infrequent non-electrified lines there are in Croatia it may actually make sense for them