Chu ęœ±

Whenever I want to buy clothing, I think about the rivers that are poisoned with the dyes used in manufacturing.

Whenever I want to buy a new electronic device, I think about the children dying from mining rare earth mineral.

Whenever I want to buy packaged food, I think about the marine life dying from the "recyclable" plastic.

Then I often don't buy these things. That's very bad for billionaires. So they don't want us thinking about these things. That's why you don't see coverage of them in corporate media.

#ClimateChange
#MediaIsComplicit

Sep 23, 2024 at 8:05pmWeb
Show threadTheFwGuy šŸ‡ŖšŸ‡ŗšŸ‡®šŸ‡¹šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡øšŸ––Sep 23, 2024
@chu To follow this logic then why you are on internet ? Data centers and all the electronic needed to create internet pollute the planet, if you use AI even worse and we can find the cost of EVERY SINGLE THING we use daily to be very very costly.
Are you living in a house ? Air conditioning ? Heating ? etc.
So what ?
Are you willing to become an hermit and live in a cave ?
Are you willing to renounce to things like a house, car, phone, computer, etc. ?
What are you proposing ?
Show threadChu ęœ±Sep 23, 2024

@thefwguy

So because I can't get to zero I should just not bother, get an SUV and let polar bears suck our tailpipes?

For the record, my house is off gas, I have long given up the car.

Show threadTheFwGuy šŸ‡ŖšŸ‡ŗšŸ‡®šŸ‡¹šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡øšŸ––Sep 23, 2024
@chu I'm saying that what "you" can do not necessarily is replicable to others and that you are not dictating the goal for every one of us.
Or put in this way, what you do not necessarily make you automatically better than others.
Having resources I too could avoid few things that I know cause problems to be produced. Starving or going around naked in winter or living in a cave, believe it or not, is not in my intentions.
Am I a bad person because of that ?
Of course I am with your mindset.
For the record, in the winter how you keep warm ?
No gas ... so what instead ?
Pellets ? Woods ? Electricity ? Solar ? ... whatever you use HAS a cost and impact, maybe different but there is.
The truth is that if you really want to save the planet, we have to go as species.
Show threadChu ęœ±Sep 23, 2024

@thefwguy

That's a lot of projection batman. I never implied I was better than everyone else.

I said that corporate media has played our asses

Show threadTheFwGuy šŸ‡ŖšŸ‡ŗšŸ‡®šŸ‡¹šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡øšŸ––Sep 23, 2024
@chu That's the message I received.
Generally speaking every time I read people like you, with a lot of ideology, in the end they think to be better than others, simple life experience.
Glad to know you are not one of them.
About the corporate media (who they are ?) is since the human species exists that somebody do that to others to obtain power/money and keep them. Nothing new under the sun.
Show threadMorgan āš§ļøSep 24, 2024
@thefwguy @chu as a disabled person who often relies on packaged food and knows other disabled people rely on the other things mentioned in the post, I'm always on the lookout for someone shaming others for needing a product. That absolutely didn't happen here!
We should all do what we can, without expecting others to have the same means. That's the attitude I got from OP, and we can't make a change without it.
Show threadChu ęœ±Sep 24, 2024

@raphaelmorgan

Thank you for this.

As someone who is abled bodied (I try not to take this for granted as things can happen to anyone), I don't always consider the various needs out there as it isn't top of mind.

My aim is not to shame, but to bring about consciousness. The worst for me were the early days of motherhood. I would go hang out with other moms and the cluelessness drove me batty. These are people who just brought mini humans into the world and seemed to not at all give a **** that those mini humans may not live to old age thanks to the Climate Crisis.

One mom told me how much she loves shopping and I said I didn't like to shop b/c of the emissions involved. She said it was better than getting things delivered and I said "But there's still emissions associated with producing, shipping it here in the first place, keeping the air conditioning and lights on in the mall, etc".

I will never forget the look on her face. Her eyes nearly popped out of her head she was in so much shock. She said "I didn't know this".

I had no idea how someone got to adulthood and didn't realize it took energy to make and transport things, but this is the state of the world.

I realize the bulk of the action needs to be taken at the elite level. But demanding action and doing what we can at our own levels is sort of the baseline.

So thank you for your comment. I will try to keep in mind the needs of disability community, but I do seek forgiveness in my ignorance should I cause offence.

Show threadoceaniceternitySep 24, 2024
@chu speaking of dye... One thing that I have thought of is why there doesn't seem to be a market for unbleached/undyed clothes. Don't get me wrong. I love me a pair of blue jeans. But... Raw cotton seems to me like it would be really cool too.
Show threadChu ęœ±Sep 24, 2024

@oceaniceternity

I know there's a bit of a market for organic, undyed cotton. You can pay premium for it for things like nut milk bags... so it definitely exists. Why not clothing?

It'll probably take some time.

The colour of undyed cotton I associate with ancient Chinese mourning attire (found a pic below... probably from some B rate drama)

The Chinese market for this colour will definitely not be easy.

Show threadRiaResistsSep 24, 2024
@chu Iā€™m right there with you.