mozilla's main problem right now appears to be they just do not recognise that they have pissed users' trust up a wall and now we are suspicious of everything they do.

you cannot, in a position like that, just do things which look dodgy as fuck and expect users to suck it up quietly, whether or not they are as they look.

and for the white knighting mozilla employees who have to defend the poor organisation from all that criticism, fuck off actually, mozilla brought this on itself.

look, i'm going to put this in simple words that even a mozilla employee could understand:

earn back our trust or die.

mozilla is pretty fucked anyway, they have relied on google buying default search engine placement illegally.

even if they manage to scrape out of this by building back trust, we are all likely to move onto servo at some point.

you may recall moz started servo, then merged part of it into gecko, then abandoned servo.

like they did with rust and some other things. things they've done for the better are the things they are abandoning.

absolutely zero long term vision or planning tbh. servo makes *so much sense* for the future if you are mozilla, i cannot fathom that decision.
@dysfun I'm still miffed at them for abandoning B2G (boot-to-gecko). It was so promising and then they dropped it and now there's a somewhat successful closed source Chinese commercial product built on top of the remains (KaiOS) which paints a what could have been if Mozilla cared enough to keep the thing going.
@Polychrome @dysfun having been there while that was happening, unfortunately it was fucked from the start because they let mobile carriers call the shots and the carriers wanted dirt-cheap devices so the user experience was awful on the phones that actually managed to ship.
@tedmielczarek @dysfun yeah I have the orange Alcatel one and it looks adorable but is otherwise barely usable.