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Cool coverage from How-To Geek on their experience with Fedora Silverblue!

➡️ https://www.howtogeek.com/why-ive-gone-all-in-on-fedora-silverblue/

Do you use Silverblue or one of the other Fedora Atomic Desktops? How do you agree or disagree with their points?

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Why I've Gone All In on Fedora Silverblue

There's more to like here than just those two (admitedly awesome) colors.

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Sep 3, 2024 at 5:32pmWeb
Show threadRobert "Szkodnix" Sep 3, 2024
@fedora I use it on my laptop. So far it works like a charm and I love it's ChromeOSish vibe which is just what I needed for that kind of hardware.
Show threadrspSep 3, 2024
@fedora I'm an amateur Linux user, not a super user. I wanted to go all-in on Silverblue but got stuck at needing to install some apps that did not have flatpak versions. I didn't want to learn how to do that (I enjoy learning new things, but time is limited). So that, and some little details, keeps me using Mint. But I like the idea of atomic distros and, from the vantage point of a slightly-above-typical-user, I agree with all their points.
https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/fedora-silverblue
How to install containerized applications on Fedora Silverblue

Silverblue is a Fedora Workstation variant that focuses on immutability and containers, so installing software is a little different from the usual Linux process.

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Show threadUlrich Feindt (Uli)Sep 3, 2024
@fedora I have been using Fedora Sway Atomic for a few months now. Took a bit to get used to the differences but now I'm pretty happy with my setup. Haven't gotten to upgrading to the next Fedora version yet but curious to try when the time comes.
Show threadPrivateMe (Follow Me On Bsky)Sep 3, 2024
@fedora Correct me if I'm wrong, but Silverblue only installs flatpaks and is more locked down. I prefer to have full control of my system and install whatever I want.
Show threadToken Sane PersonSep 3, 2024
@privateme @fedora You can still install RPMs using rpm-ostree. The underlying FS is a bit like git, but for file system images, so each thing you install becomes a delta on the image and can be removed by just omitting that delta rather than undoing the install.
Show threadPrivateMe (Follow Me On Bsky)Sep 3, 2024
@tokensane @fedora And does rpm-ostree have any less packages?
Show threadRerumSep 3, 2024

@privateme It has the same amount of available packages, all `rpm-ostree` does is to be a replacement of `dnf` for Fedora Atomic Systems, but it should be used as a last resort, as it cause update times to be longer, UBlue has good docs about it, only things that doesn't apply to Fedora Atomic is `brew` and `ujust`

https://ublue-os.github.io/bazzite/Installing_and_Managing_Software/

Index - Bazzite Documentation

Bazzite is a custom image built upon Fedora Atomic Desktops that brings the best of Linux gaming to all of your devices - including your favorite handheld.

Show threadFedora ProjectSep 4, 2024

@privateme @tokensane (I think all) rpms can be installed on a Fedora Atomic system with rpm-ostree, but it is layered onto the image as Token said, meaning that updates take much longer than on a regular Linux system.

The recommended order for installing apps is flatpak, then containers, then rpm-ostree layering.

It's powerful if you adapt to the model, but for now you do have to adapt.

Show threadToken Sane PersonSep 4, 2024
@privateme @fedora I don't understand the question. rpm-ostree is a tool that manages RPM packages, same as dnf.
Show threadPrivateMe (Follow Me On Bsky)Sep 11, 2024
@tokensane @fedora Sorry, didn't see this, I understand what it is now, thanks!
Show threadSi  (he/him)Sep 4, 2024

@fedora

Full ACK for:

“Neither of those names is immediately intuitive”

What keeps me from switching to Silverblue is Firefox and KeePassXC not working together in Flatpak sandboxes.

And having to install CLI tools like bpytop in the toolbox environment.

Show threadFedora ProjectSep 4, 2024
@sihaha There are definitely areas that don't match the experience on mainline Fedora. Thank you for your feedback!
Show threadFluchtkapselSep 4, 2024

@sihaha @fedora FWIW Firefox in Silverblue is native and works with flatpak'ed KeePassXC but comes without extended codecs. These codecs are in the flatpak version which doesn't work with KeePassXC, though.

In Silverblue I added some repo and installed ffmpeg with all codecs. Bazzite, though, comes with the flatpak'ed Firefox.

I hope for a solution to this soon, too. Canonical provided a flatpak portal for web extensions in 2022 or so but it's still in discussion limbo. AFAIU the relevant group aims for a proper solution and wants to make it right. I'd really like to use other flatpak'ed browsers with KeePassXC.

Show threadToken Sane PersonSep 4, 2024
@sihaha @fedora And more generally, sandboxed apps in Flatpak can't invoke each other. E.g. Thunderbird can't open a document with Libre Office. You have to save the attachment and then go open the file you saved.
Show threadSi  (he/him)Sep 4, 2024

@tokensane @fedora

We did talk flatpaks, not snaps. ;-)

Show threadToken Sane PersonSep 4, 2024
@sihaha @fedora oh yeah. Edited.
Show threadliofmrSep 6, 2024
@fedora Silverblue est devenu ma distro principale depuis un moment déjà !
J'aime beaucoup le concept, et ça correspond très bien à mon usage.