Crafty
Cyberpunk LibrarianA kindred spirit right here, lads.
DoomsdaysCW@CyberpunkLibrarian YES!
CyEspecially do not use handbrake, cdrtools, or vlc to copy a DVD, because the library has to pay actual literal money to crooked publishers who demand a fee per circulation for digital books and streamy stuff. It saves the library a lot of money if you copy physical disks instead of stream movies, and that would deny those publishers their right to extract unlimited rent from a library.
https://handbrake.fr/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cdrtools
https://wiki.videolan.org/VLC_HowTo/Rip_a_DVD/
https://handbrake.fr/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cdrtools
https://wiki.videolan.org/VLC_HowTo/Rip_a_DVD/
vv221For Linux users out there, this is the kind of ffmpeg command that you should not use either:
ffmpeg -analyzeduration 100M -probesize 100M -i "concat:VTS_02_1.VOB|VTS_02_2.VOB|VTS_02_3.VOB|VTS_02_4.VOB" -map 0:v -map 0:a -map 0:s -c copy output.vob
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ffmpeg -analyzeduration 100M -probesize 100M -i "concat:VTS_02_1.VOB|VTS_02_2.VOB|VTS_02_3.VOB|VTS_02_4.VOB" -map 0:v -map 0:a -map 0:s -c copy output.vob
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Parade du Grotesque 💀Don't do it. Just don't. 😅
VulcanTourist [MOVED]I skip Handbrake and the library as a middleman altogether.
DB Schwein@VulcanTourist @cy @CyberpunkLibrarian
Yes, but then the library doesn't get the funding it needs to support your neighbours who don't have other access!
@deirdrebeth @cy @CyberpunkLibrarian
I'd teach the neighbors that other access if they asked... but they'd rather treat us like crap than equals. They aren't patrons of the library, either, so....
Could you teach me? The last time I tried to get a movie without the library as a middleman, my mother got a nice letter from our ISP saying that we're breaking criminal law, and their buddies at the MPAA want us to know that if we don't stop the downloading, they'll cut off our Internet.
She now refuses to watch movies in any way other than Amazon Prime. I had to beg to get her to let me copy library DVDs.
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She now refuses to watch movies in any way other than Amazon Prime. I had to beg to get her to let me copy library DVDs.
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@cy @deirdrebeth @CyberpunkLibrarian
I could try. The most important component is a trustworthy reliable lips-are-sealed VPN. I previously used a blocklist with some success, but when it stopped being aggressively maintained it was time to move on... so now I pay money for a VPN subscription.
The other components in my "workflow" are Flaresolverr, Prowlarr, Sonarr, Radarr, qBittorrent, and Jellyfin... oh, and a big fat 10-bay NAS. The latter was quite the expense, but a worthy investment.
Is there a qualitative difference between an ISP and a VPN?
I don't watch movies enough to justify paying for a VPN anyway, even if I had any way to tell if they were trustworthy and reliable, which I don't.
Guess I'm just saying even the nicest of neighbors might not have the same... options that you do. OTOH, if you could give them a way to copy movies directly from their neighbor...
I don't watch movies enough to justify paying for a VPN anyway, even if I had any way to tell if they were trustworthy and reliable, which I don't.
Guess I'm just saying even the nicest of neighbors might not have the same... options that you do. OTOH, if you could give them a way to copy movies directly from their neighbor...
A VPN is quite distinct from an ISP. If I can afford one on a quite limited fixed income, I suspect that quite a few others can as well. I pay many times more - a ridiculous sum by the estimate of people elsewhere in the world - for service from our ISP than I do for the VPN service. The one I use can be readily recommended.
I'd like to share our NAS as you mention - just another CAT 6e cable - but again they'd have to be comparably decent people (they're not) to make it happen.
slash@CyberpunkLibrarian Not only does my library have a streaming service (Kanopy), but you don't even have to live there to get a library card. Most libraries will give out cards for a yearly fee.
The hardest thing to get used to is: when I push "Play", the movie starts. When it's over, I'm back at the main screen again. It's like being able to watch a movie, without having ads shoved in your face.
(Not sure if they are selling your data, though. Maybe someone here can tell me.)
Nosaj 
Personally I prefer Jellyfin to Plex.
@nosaj BIG SAME.
All the good things of Plex, none of the bad, and I don't have to pay to access content on my own server!
L, the Perpetually Exhausted@CyberpunkLibrarian you also definitely shouldn't check out ebooks in epub format, then import those ebooks into a software like Calibre with a plugin to remove DRM installed, before returning the ebook to the library for someone else to read while you read it on your own time without worrying about the false scarcity of digital products, because that would be 
bad
bad
gmoke@CyberpunkLibrarian
Every day is Christmas at the library and librarians are a combination of Santa Claus and Sherlock Holmes.
I keep on putting it out there because it's true and more people need to realize.
PS: Libraries are an example of socialism - benefit for the public rather than private interests.
union whore@CyberpunkLibrarian I miss the times where I was at Uni and professors would "warn" us about sci-hub and lib-gen 
@lilianalytic HERE IS A LIST OF SITES THAT YOU SHOULD NOT VISIT!
Because that would be illegal. You wouldn't wanna do that, would you? So take this list and make sure you never trip on a shoe and fall over your keyboard and accidentally type one of these URLs into the browser!
Phil M0OFX@CyberpunkLibrarian "Please don't take a copy of it" ... because it's literally right there, and checking it out again improves the accuracy of the "stuff people check out" statistics!
edit: I think the word I was looking for was "circulation".
@philpem Circulation for the win! 😃
Just take a copy of it, and the second time you watch the movie make a note to check it out the next time you get to the library. Then walk in a circle and immediately return it. They get circulation numbers, you get as many copies of your movie as you want, and the disc doesn't get used multiple times, greatly extending its lifetime. It's win/win/win!
Uh, er, I mean, don't do that, because uh, that would be uh, illegal, or something, probably.
Uh, er, I mean, don't do that, because uh, that would be uh, illegal, or something, probably.
Jon [🇺🇦,🏳️🌈]@CyberpunkLibrarian I have not been doing this ever since the redbox went bankrupt.
plague roundscreenshot of a Reddit post by star_nerdy, 13 hours ago:
As a librarian, we have movies and they’re free.
Come browse, we can get anything through inter library loan, and many of us don’t have late fees.
Just don’t use handbrake or other apps to make copies for your own collection and use plex to watch those movies whenever you want.
We will never know that you made a copy and we don’t care. But I guess it’s illegal even if there’s no way any of us would trace it or care.
Anyways, what was I talking about?
Oh yeah, come to the library for free movies and books and we have streaming services too.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/1ezrkam/comment/ljo93wr/
#alttext
As a librarian, we have movies and they’re free.
Come browse, we can get anything through inter library loan, and many of us don’t have late fees.
Just don’t use handbrake or other apps to make copies for your own collection and use plex to watch those movies whenever you want.
We will never know that you made a copy and we don’t care. But I guess it’s illegal even if there’s no way any of us would trace it or care.
Anyways, what was I talking about?
Oh yeah, come to the library for free movies and books and we have streaming services too.
124 upvotes
https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/1ezrkam/comment/ljo93wr/
#alttext
Jørn@CyberpunkLibrarian @cykonot You should not use tools such as Handbrake. Those tools claim that they can make copies of physical media, and they do that, quite well actually.
Anyway, as I was saying.
sodiboo 
@CyberpunkLibrarian I have two questions:
we have streaming services toohow does that work? like free Netflix accounts? do the library computers have a Netflix subscription? or do they run their own streaming services, like with Jellyfin or similar, based on the media they own?I guess it's illegalis it even illegal? I was under the impression that this is genuinely legal in many jurisdictions, as long as you don't distribute your own digital copy further.
LyrenhexI was under the impression that this is genuinely legal in many jurisdictions
So, the way this works to my understanding is that many jurisdictions allow the right to create a personal backup copy of any media you own. This has caveats:
- a library loan isn't a media you own, and as soon as you return the media your backup copy would logically be an illegal copy (as you have a permanent copy of media content which you don't actually own). Another example of this is that it's generally illegal to make a "backup copy" of some media and then sell the original, since that means it's not a backup copy: it's piracy.
- some jurisdictions implement the DMCA Anti-Circumvention provisions, which can render the act of bypassing copy protection, if applicable, illegal (even if the underlying act of copying the media might be contextually allowed otherwise).
@lyrenhex @CyberpunkLibrarian that is.. a very interesting way to think about this that I had Simply Not Considered. that backup copy of media you own makes a lot of sense. I was under the impression that any copying by yourself is fine, as long as you don't distribute the copies - and this is somewhat blurry when you then give the media to someone else. I hadn't considered the fact that "make a copy of this and return the original" is essentially the same as "make a copy and distribute it" - the actual media is fungible and of course there's no sound distinction between these. I guess one way to justify the way I had assumed it works is that you can sell or give a piece of media as many times as you have bought or otherwise received it, similar to the Internet Archive's digital lending system. so essentially, I believe my understanding was, expressed more formally this time: "I'm allowed to make any amount of personal digital copies at any time of any media in my possession by any means, but distributing them is not allowed"; which also makes downloading pirated content legal; the distributor is in the wrong and committing a crime, not the consumer. i think this is also how it works in many jurisdictions? and I guess that's how I came to the conclusion I had come to.
but yes, obviously, making a copy and giving the original for digital media is indistinguishable from making a copy and giving the copy, of course this means that the law should view it the same way. that makes a lot of sense in hindsight
but yes, obviously, making a copy and giving the original for digital media is indistinguishable from making a copy and giving the copy, of course this means that the law should view it the same way. that makes a lot of sense in hindsight
@sodiboo @CyberpunkLibrarian basically, yeah. The bit about "any amount of personal copies" can theoretically differ by jurisdiction (some try to limit it, iirc), but obviously that's both difficult to enforce and absurd (imo).
which also makes downloading pirated content legal
this part's actually interesting; iirc, prevailing legal opinion holds that the copy should be made of the media you own, and thus downloading pirated content is always illegal. Some justifications could include if the pirated copy is at all different (censorship changes, or perhaps including bonus content) versus the copy you own. For backup copies, of course, as long as the content is, in fact, identical, it could be logically rather difficult to prove (and in general it's not usually worth going after pirate consumers, since yeah, it's a lot easier to prosecute - and damages can be more easily assessed against - distributors).
Admittedly, whilst I seem to recall this opinion being asserted for the UK specifically (for example), the Gov't's own advice from 2014 doesn't make any mention of the consumer side (though advice is subordinate to legislation, ofc):
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/359247/Exceptions_to_copyright_-_Guidance_for_consumers.pdf
In answer to the other half, they have their own streaming service(s) that isn't in direct competition to any of the others and instead gets licences direct from the publishers.
I don't know if all libraries use the same but mine uses Hoopla.
Jessamyn@CyberpunkLibrarian I have always thought that libraries not running their own plex/jellyfin servers for their own cultural content was a missed opportunity. "Hey you can run your own netflix and people can watch the selectboard meeting or Bob;s Beekeeping Videos!"
Vincent Batts@jessamyn @CyberpunkLibrarian big agree. I have tried to curate various lecture series I follow on my personal jellyfin.
@jessamyn @CyberpunkLibrarian
Bonus points if the setup could be made for duplicating onto portable drives, for offline distribution
Bonus points if the setup could be made for duplicating onto portable drives, for offline distribution
Alex@jessamyn @CyberpunkLibrarian Sadly, if I proposed that to my system, the IT department would think it was cool, but mostly laugh at my proposal for something new while they barely have enough people to keep everything from spontaneously combusting.
I suspect this is true in most public library spaces, unfortunately.
@jessamyn See, this is just one of the many reasons I think you’re awesome. 😃
Frances LarinaSomeone needs to crack ebooks, what publishers are doing to libraries, and thus society, is just wrong.
🌀bedient （ ͜.人 ͜.）@Frances_Larina
On one hand, I get why the main drm stripper in calibre strictly does not work on Ovwrdrive-mqndated library drm, but c'mon.
*is a librarian and rips a shitlold of cds every year.*
I'm so curious: Why don't libraries carry more self-published, creative commons and public domain books?
@Frances_Larina
Largely because of Overdrive's monopoly. They don't carry them and they have 05% markets here, so it doesn't happen. Palace(?) Books is trying to compete, but it's a very steep uphill battle.
Also, a lot of self published stiff nowadays is by Amazon, and they'd rather see libraries gone in spite of the fact it's been proven we increase book sales.
What I'd love to see is independent publishers make a consortium for library lending. I know a lot don't use drm, so as library lending is one of the few valid uses of it imo, that can also be a hinderance.
MAGIC____@CyberpunkLibrarian As an ex-librarian, yes please. go support your local libraries. they've only evolved in the decade+ that i've been in that job.
Jes Moved to @@neruriod @CyberpunkLibrarian who needs blockbuster when you have a library
@Jessica @CyberpunkLibrarian Me. I need it, I want to go back to the fucking VHS rental days :(
Just wish they hadn't evolved into glorified child care centers. They've been doing more in recent years, but they still have that ball and chain, which really makes things difficult.
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Ertain@CyberpunkLibrarian Wait a minute.. It looks like there's a hidden message here...
Canageek@CyberpunkLibrarian that's how I got most of my music collection in high school
Going T. Maine@CyberpunkLibrarian feel like it is only right to delete the ripped DVDs after you watch em since they are library checkouts, but that is me.
Maxi 12x 💉@CyberpunkLibrarian Don't use Handbrake, use MakeMKV to just remux the 1:1 quality!