You’re right: we should be socialists and have governments like the PRC, North Korea, the ex-USSR, Cuba, Hoxhua’s Albania, or the Stalinists in Spain during their civil war. Say what you will about the Khmer Rouge and Sendero Luminoso, but they weren’t centrists or moderates.

PRC, North Korea, the ex-USSR, Cuba, Hoxhua’s Albania, or the Stalinists in Spain during their civil war

What?

Why are you using rightwing dictatorships that lie about what they are. Instead of the actual socialist countries in Europe?

What actual socialist countries in Europe?

cambridge.org/…/9919C742691605DE158C13394E416349

I think part of the problem here, is you don’t understand socialism is an economic system.

And before you say “someone has to enforce it”, yeah, that’s how society works man. People have to enforce capitalism too, if you need examples of that, well…

In what European country is there a political system where:

1a. let’s say >75% of the means of production is controlled by the state, syndicalists (i.e. the factory has no owner, it is run by the workers), or independent people (and I don’t mean independent contractors that for-profit companies use)

2b. such as system isn’t repressive

Bruh.

You’re talking about communism…

Do you think the same thing or just not know the difference?

I don’t know for sure, but it seems that communists, most who seem to identify as Marxist-Leninists, or pretty much like them, describe themselves as socialists.

What is your definition of socialism?

Yeah. There’s no way someone could be this ignorant and this opinionated without ever putting in the two minutes to google it themselves.

Lots of Google results are garbage.