I did a calculation yesterday that made me want to scream. If you look at the *current* density of satellites in 1km altitude bins in Low Earth Orbit, and assume they are travelling at circular velocities (generally true), then Starlink satellites pass within <1km of each other EVERY 30 SECONDS.

At Starlink altitudes, everything is travelling at 7 km/second, so <1 km close approaches are terrifyingly close. Every 30 seconds. WHY.

Why do they have to be in such a dense orbit? Why do they need 42,000 of them?! They are launching more into this same super dense orbit and we're supposed to just trust that their "autonomous collision avoidance system" will be good enough to keep going at higher and higher densities?

There's an opportunity for error about every 30 seconds. One small mistake and we're in Kessler Syndrome, no more LEO satellites for decades.

"Oh don't worry, SpaceX has amazing engineers! They know what they're doing!"

Well yes, they're amazing. But they definitely make giant mistakes. Like... you know... dropping hundreds of pounds of debris from a "fully demisable" spacecraft by my house. Whoopsie.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/spacex-dropped-space-junk-on-my-neighbors-farm-heres-what-happened-next/

SpaceX, please don't whoopsie us into Kessler Syndrome.

When Space Junk Fell on My Neighbor’s Farm, the Law Had Few Answers for Us

A Saskatchewan farmer’s near miss with potentially lethal debris falling from orbit highlights the skyrocketing risks and murky politics of space junk

Scientific American

I got asked to speak to a Very Important group of people about the many terrible environmental consequences of satellite megaconstellations (collisions, atmospheric pollution, ground casualty risks) and I was wavering because it's a really really long trip and it has to be in-person (I guess because Very Important people can't Zoom or something...)

Anyway. This calculation made my decision for me. I'm going to yell at the most important people I can, hopefully it will help. (More details later)

Oof way too many replies for me to go through here, and while some are hilarious, some of them are really frustrating (yes, I know how orbits work, and I'm pretty darn good at math).

Signing off for a bit to focus on some other ways to teach people about the terrifyingly bad situation in orbit.

Ok one more post before I mute this thread: I absolutely understand why rural people are using Starlink (see my post from a few days ago trying to find a weather website that works well with my own shitty non-Starlink rural internet). I'm criticizing the SpaceX/Starlink operating practices, because they are dangerous, and are definitely going to cause severe consequences for everyone.

And, reply guys, please don't fucking tell me how orbits work.

Hopefully back to farm posts after this. MUTE

@sundogplanets Incoming mansplaining! Brace! Brace! Brace!

#mansplaining

@anne_twain @sundogplanets

Explaining how orbits work to a *checks notes* Professor of Astronomy. Well done, guys.

@anne_twain @sundogplanets I read an interesting article on countering mansplaining which of course I can't find now but it suggested treating the 'splainer like a 5 year old child. You smile, nod your head, and say "Gee, aren't you smart? Maybe when you grow up you'll be a PhD astronomer with special expertise in satellite tech just like me!" Then figuratively pat them on the head. I'd use a sledge hammer for the last part.

@isotope239 @sundogplanets Sadly I don't have a PhD due to being poor and female during my education, but I can summon a withering "Did I ask for your help?"

#mansplaining

@anne_twain @sundogplanets Works for me! I also favor a short sharp knee to the gonads to get their attention, but that's just me.
@sundogplanets I think the problem is not the internet speed but the overloaded web pages. Web pages become heavier all the time, so you always fall behind with your internet access speed. That’s a race you can never win, but that’s how capitalism works.

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That and software too. Software expands to fill the storage/memory space available.

@sundogplanets Is elephant dung a good fertiliser ? (Because that thread of toot might look like a big pile of it then)
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It's incredible that a private company is allowed that. If Chinese or Russians do the same quess who will go nuts
@sundogplanets Really glad you are here, please come back soon 😃
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All the dystopian post-apocalytic movies & series we see these days, can we get one quality series set in a world 100 years into the future where simply all the medium-bad predictions turn out to be true?
@Gurre @sundogplanets The World would have ended by then
@sundogplanets That's abjectly terrifying. Best of luck!
@sundogplanets When you get those opportunities you MUST do it! Thank you! Those people need to hear from people with expertise they don't have! And when they don't, they make bad decisions.
@sundogplanets Thank you for your work to stop this madness. It's almost unbelievable that one man would be allowed to occupy the sky.
@skry @sundogplanets The sky should be free, Elon Musk is trying to take the sky from you and me.

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Thank you for taking time to yell at important people we can’t reach, on our behalf. Please know you have our gratitude and support!

@sundogplanets thank you for doing the yelling, this has been screaming in my head for years, so the Very Important people need to wake up
@sundogplanets brilliant! I hope you're able to write about it.