graphitoThe opposite of shopaholic: shopcell
MrJameGumbI’ve had this conversation with the lady at the really good deli down the road from me! When I occasionally have a rare chance to go in there she says “we never see you anymore!” And I have to always remind her they only serve lunch from 11am to 3pm, my work starts at 11 and my lunch break is at 330 lol
KaRunChiyThis. If you work during the day anywhere around my town you have a good 30 minutes to do shopping before all the stores close at 4:30.
Never understood those hours, they lock out more than half of their potential customers
SchmidtGeneticsThey want time to do stuff to.
That's when they should introduce a second shift instead of just having one shift and one set of staff.
Then you have to pay for double the employee hours. And you may not necessarily make double the profit in doing so.
Oh, none of this matters soon anyways. We’re all being replaced with AI and robots. None of us are going to have jobs, or money, or ability to pay for rent. Better buy a really really nice tent soon. That’s going to be your home!
silly goose meekahUsername checks out I guess?
With self checkout and shelves that detect when stock is empty, how much people could they really need.
I have often wondered about the self checkout clerk/guard who’s only job it is to do random control checks in case someone tries to steal.
I sort of cant imagine that they would lose more then a full employee wage on theft without that person there. Especially since pretty much every supermarket having insurance against common theft.
Its called “commercial property insurance” and covers both customer and employee theft.
There exist even a version where lost profits on stolen goods are additionally insured but at least that one is rare to see in this context.
Where I live, there are now supermarkets without employees. You scan your card to open the door, shop, and do self-checkout. I assume if you just leave, they’ll deduct the value of the items you took from your account.
They don’t offer alcohol, though. Cause there’s no way to check if you’re off drinking age.
They don’t offer alcohol, though. Cause there’s no way to check if you’re off drinking age.
Ah, but you see, they would have to pay them
You could also take a shift off, just like they would maybe need to to go to your place or work.
What crawled up your ass?
People who expect others to move mountains, but won’t move pebbles themselves.
What’s wrong with their hours, but your identical ones are fine?
What is the point of opening a store if you'll only keep it open for 4 hours every other day? Is it really moving a mountain to expect a business owner to invest extra time and staffing into their stores? For fucks sake if you think its so much effort to be open another 30 minutes then why the fuck are you open at all?
You're also just demonizing one form of laziness while protecting another. You're clearly extremely biased and arguing with you anymore than this is pointless
It’s likely their passion job while the work another job.
So yeah it’s probably not profitable for them to be open that 30 more hours, you could be the only extra customer, and you can’t seriously think one potential customer once in while could justify that do you?
Airlines make me buy two seats for flights meaning I’m fat enough to be considered two people, so that’s two extra customers. Checkmate, Bozo
It’s not one extra customer. A LOT of people work 9-5. If everyone else at home also works 9-5, they can’t shop at your shop. That’s a lot of customers.
cm0002We can’t control our work hours for the most part, a business owner can.
And then you wonder why people shop at Big Box stores and Amazon. It’s not JUST their anticompetitive practices
A business owner has rules and regulations to follow, you can take a day off to support your local business if you care enough about them.
Are you outside the US or something? We don’t get 3 months of PTO time here to waste, most of us are lucky to get a yearly accrual of 2 weeks. Many don’t get any.
Show me a municipality in the US that stops a non- liquor/weed/tobacco business owner from working 12 hours or restricts their operating hours
I’ll wait
I can’t think of a single city where all business can operate 24 hours, can you provide any?
Its zoning laws, and you can be sure I’m not going to assed to go through any municipalities zoning laws to see when each class of business can be allowed to be open.
Very few businesses are 24/7, not even Walmarts in most cities. So no, I’m flipping this onus back on you, provide a municipality that says a deli shop can operate 24/7, because some would if they could, but plenty are forced to close before bars are closed and the rest usually an hour after… its not because they want to, its because their specific zoning laws disallow it.
You need to pay attention to the thread you’re in, nobody asked for 24/7 operation. This entire thread is about businesses that are only open 9-5 on weekdays or some shit. People here are asking for open hours till like 7 or 8 not 2 AM or maybe like a 11-5 on a Saturday.
And FYI, pre-pandemic most Wal-Marts were 24/7, but it proved expensive and they used the plague as an excuse to kill it off. It was their own decision, not regulations.
Okay, so you agree that they have locations on their hours? Thats the issue of the discussion, some in certain places may need to be closed at 4, and can only open at 8. That’s the limitations of whatever agreements they have with their landlord and municipality. Shit sucks sometimes.
No they weren’t, only a select few in most cities were, zoning and bylaws played large roles first.
Not everything is a conspiracy dude.
you can take a day or some time off to support your local business
Now who’s being entitled?
They don’t need to take a shift off to come to my place of work because I work on an office where the customers are people doing their job.
And if they needed to take a shift off to come to my place of work, it would only be because they work at the same hours as I do. If they worked different hours they wouldn’t need to take a shift off.
Taking a shift off every time you need to shop (at least once per week) isn’t moving mountains?
Then they can’t go an FB or Nextdoor and complain about people not shopping local.
BigBananaDealerall the grocery stores around me stopped being 24 hours so now i can never get anything after work except taco bell
I wish 24 hours was a thing again, my fiancee gets out at 12:00 and there is literally nothing open unless you want to drive an hour. Honestly i'd work a graveyard shift too, love the night
I’m of two minds. I love the convenience of 24/7, but we were JUST THERE. we saw just how much the corpos will demand in order to keep staffing for all 24 hours. People need time off, and they deserve for it to be consistent and “normal”. That doesn’t happen if the corporations have a say in a 24 hour shift.
I’d love to see expanded hours not being 24/7, but having different start times. No reason every shop has to open at 6am, some can open at 6, some at 8, some 10, etc, and with a similarly staggered closing time, we can have the convenience of having things open when we’re available, and not have every minute of our lives scheduled by a corporation.
Obviously there is still a case for overnight shifts. Emergency work, for example. And we need some support for those people working in an industry that has to be always open. I don’t know that there’s a good solution to compromise on both situations without just an excessive amount of regulation.
Add those local businesses for food or service type things that are mote weekend things, but they close on Sundays cause JEBIS!
Jazzy VidaliaIf I see a sign in a business whining about workers or people not wanting to work, I will straight up leave and go somewhere else. Tells me everything I need to know about how the owner treats their workers.
Is this some dayshift joke that I’m too nightshift to understand. I go where I want provided I don’t care about sleeping.
Ok…imagine the shops were only open from 4pm-11pm. And not open on your days off.
That’s approximately second shift. I suspect the original comment is referring to third.
(Though the point still applies)
I genuinely miss third shift, though.
ZorsithGod I hated second shift. Everything was closed by the time I was off, I had maybe ~10 minutes to drove to the nearest food that wasn’t taco bell assuming other places didn’t just close early for the hell of it (I refuse to be a karen about it, I’d want to close of shit was slow too). Fucked up my sleeping habits so badly. At least third shift can get breakfast food.
Yeah, if I had to pick a shift, second would have been my third choice.
What would first choice be? Third? And third pick is first shift?
Pretty much, yeah.
I actually am working second but only because my workplace stopped doing a third shift durring covid. Damn do I miss third shift. I actually enjoyed 3rd shift in winter when I could go months without ever actually seeing the sun.
My condolences regarding your second shift.
I have a family living a normally scheduled life now, but if I didn’t, I would go back to third shift in a blink.
Yall are crazy, second shift is the greatest. It helps that there’s nowhere to go even during the day, lol. So I just get to wake up and go to sleep whenever I feel like it.
Is this a dayshift joke that I’m too nightshift to understand?
i work 20-06. lol
i work 20-06. lol
WR5Hopefully not. Just imagine wanting to go to any store that is only open at times inconvenient to your schedule. I don’t think it’s hard to understand?
I had hoped the “provided I don’t care about sleeping” would have made it clear I was joking.
Ah, I just assumed you meant you generally don’t care about sleeping per insomnia or something. Several of my friends on night shifts seem to function with less sleep than everyone else.
Wtf kind of shop is only open for 8 hours a day, and business hours at that. I’ve never witnessed that
Are you really asking “What kind of business keeps business hours”?
Well yeah, because they aren’t their business hours.
English isn’t my native language, I thought it referred to business as in office. Because other jobs definitely don’t keep those hours.
Also I was genuinely curious, id never heard of that. Everything is open at least 8-6 here. Cultural differences I guess.
Yeah, in English a “Business” is just an entity that makes/sells/trades goods/services. A shop is typically the location where a business resides. It’s the physical location of the business.
I’ve been complaining about banks for YEARS now! I can understand in the 60s why your bank account wasn’t up to the minute accurate.
I have a debit card. I have money in the bank. Why is a $3.19 slim jim transaction pending for a week??? I tap my chip, I type my pin, transaction goes through…my bank should instantly deduct those funds, and there should never be a “pending” status. It’s all digital! What the god damn fuck?
Because of ancient COBOL code from the 3 major banks that nearly all transactions pass through at some point. Oh and they can’t rewrite them because money “CaNt FiX WhAT isNT BrOKe”
By ancient, I hope you mean from like the 50s/60s when computers first started becoming a thing, and not like…the 90s. If the 90s is ancient, I’m just going to have to cry.
In terms of technology, the 90s is archaic at this point. Imagine if your bank transactions had to go through a Dell running Windows 98 with a single piece of RAM measured in kb.
I’m pretty sure some parts of the US power grid are running on DOS and some of the medical system hasn’t seen a security update since Windows 2000’s end of life updates.
COBOL predates DOS by more than 20 years though. It truly is ancient.
dansome parts of the US power grid are running on DOS
What’s the problem with that, though? Systems like that are pretty much guaranteed to be isolated from the internet.
There’s no need to rewrite code just because it’s old. Code doesn’t expire. If it’s still doing what it’s supposed to be doing, it’s really not as bad as people make it out to be. Windows 11 still has code from NT 3.51 in it, because that code still does its job.
There’s nothing wrong with it, per se. As they say, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Just trying to put in perspective the technological difference between the 90s and today that makes the 90s “ancient” and how systems are still running on that old tech today.
The 90s was only about 30 years ago, but when you think of what computers running Windows 95 could do then compared to systems today, it’s like a different era. It’s no small wonder that banking systems can’t keep your accounts up to date in real time when major pieces of them were designed before the internet was more than a DARPA project.
When my dad was in college for engineering, the college had their own computer, and he remembers going into the clean room to put his punch cards into it for classes. When I was a kid in the 90s, I remember being blown away by a flight sim on my dad’s Mac. Today, I can grab my HTC Vive and be right in the cockpit of a fighter jet in something like DCS. Compared to when I was a kid, I might as well be on the holodeck from Star Trek. Dick Tracy’s wrist computer went from science fiction to something people use just so they don’t have to pull their computer out of their pocket.
The only thing that can outpace technology is internet meme culture.
I loathe that quote, it’s so much more nuanced.
A program from the 90s whose task is just to run a piece of machinery? Not broke, no problem
A program from the 90s supporting the bulk of an entire countrys economy that literally can’t handle real-time transactions and causes numerous knock on effects as a result? Time replace the shit
It’s because companies consider something that would be expensive to fix as “not broke.”