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@VeroniqueB99 whilst i would run down the billionaires. nobody should hoard that wealth. they're not the problem.

the problem is basically everyone (else). to anyone: justify owning a car. you and your other car owners are a huge problem. why won't you stop? you're 17% of global emissions. yes, you're a tiny amount of that and can't make a difference. just like every other car owner. nothing changes. you're still the problem.

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@pavsmith 👍 ...among other things (let's start with industry, say Cruise Ships.... no demand no supply, tax them to the gills cuz they're the problem - tons of other industries too... ) it's a big endless chain and no one wants to suffer. Not even short term so that we have a long term do they?

@VeroniqueB99 cruise ships are 0.06% of global emissions. the entire merchant fleet, 1.7%. cars, 17%. expend your energy more effectively. cruise ships might be a marquee cause, they're not The Problem. cars are The Problem. fossil fuelled power is even bigger. nuclear is basically 0%. given france's success with nuclear, and norway's with waste disposal, what is the reason for not going all in on nuclear? takes a long time to build? so what? the future of the earth, and the species lasts longer than the next decade. having said that, i'm not sure right now that's actually true. but yes, cruise ships and their 0.06%, that'll fix it.

and yes, i am fucking angry about this. it's what i do for a living, and no fucker anywhere actually cares about making an actual difference. the drought in africa right now? people are going to die. in droves. still, european sensibilities on the causes of climate change.

@VeroniqueB99 sorry, to be shouty, but i do long term climate modelling. on the track we're on right now, we're utterly f*cked. nobody is addressing the big problems. we're all complaining about cruise ships. it means the petro industry gets off scot free. they love it.

anyway, as i say, i don't want to be awful about this, but if you're looking closely, the problem is obvious, and urgent.

we have four scenarios we deal with (to keep it simple). CO2 in the atmosphere. all are plausible in certain scenarios.

1.5%, 2.5%, 4.5%, and 8.5%.

1.5% is alarming. most of the others are wild. 8.5% is borderline hilarious... because people are not taking this seriously.

anyway. enough ranting. thank you for reading. going to bed. g'night.

@VeroniqueB99 and thank you for being patient. it has been a shitty day for this topic at work, and i need to go to bed... #nightyNight

@pavsmith not a problem. I don't know why people ask scientists and then absolutely ignore what they're saying.... over. and over. and over again. 😭

@pavsmith Jesus... we're utterly f*cked indeed. I actually believe that and when you look around at what - if anything- is being done, it doesn't take a genius to see how bad it's going to get. No one is taking it seriously. You are quite right. The problem is, the short term $$$ is SO much more important.

It must be maddening for someone in your position. I'm sorry.

night.

@pavsmith well I had no idea they were .06% but needless to say the US is hands down the worst offender in terms of cars and their worship of them...

@VeroniqueB99 now there we can agree 100%!

The 0.06% comes from looking at the gross tonnage of the global merchant fleet vs. the cruise fleet tonnage and doing a simple calculation.

Problem is cruise ships can't use "bunker fuel" which tankers, etc. can. Think burning asphalt, but worse! The amount of sulphur. Blerk!

Anyway, let's kill cars!