alessandroBlack Myth: Wukong streamers asked not to mention “feminist propaganda” and COVID
chemical_cutthroatOh, ok. I’ll wait for a mod that allows me to play through as Winnie The Pooh and just bootleg the game.
BroBot9000So hope this backfires and everyone lays into these fuckers hard.
DragonTypeWyvern“The gamers will be on the right side this time”
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Weird, I have a sudden urge to talk about feminist propaganda, covid and China’s game industry policies.
DruidFuck right the fuck off, dude. I get the part about using offensive language and insulting other streamers/players but actively forbidding them from mentioning politics, feminism, whatever is weak. Tf is feminist propaganda even?
Feminist propaganda = women are people too
Probably
Woah there, let’s not get too political /s
Are the protagonist characters men, or political?
Jojo, Lady of the WestSomeone ran a DND game from a module, but decided to switch the gender of everyone in the middle without telling the players.
The players were convinced there was some secret conspiracy to get rid of the men, because the only man they could find anywhere was the unnamed spouse of the blacksmith.
All men: business as usual. All women: there must be a secret conspiracy to erase the men.
20 years ago, our DM invited a guy he knew at work. Dude was new in town, moved there for school, and they got to talking about DnD. After a few months, seemed like a nice, reasonable, guy with compatible interests. Dude was immediately weird once he showed up. After a few games he stopped showing up, much to the relief of the group.
Few months later DM said the guy came to him, angry, that he didn’t tell him that half the party were “feeeemales”. This was before the archetype of an incel/neckbeard was a thing. So, he was just an awkward loser. Seems he felt like DnD was not something for “feeeemales”. We were just glad he came off as kinda cold, maybe a little hostile, for the couple games he showed up for. That could have been a much worse situation, but he showed his ass quickly, in private. DM said the guy stopped talking to him after he told him that if he felt that way, he wasn’t welcome. Then, at the end of the school year, he left DM an e-mail just going on an unhinged incel rant.
Incels: How come no women want to date me?
Also incels: Eeew, women in my social spaces how even dare they!?
Yeah, he even quoted Gary Gygax’s statement about wanting women to stay away from DnD and war-games, in that e-mail. It was wild shit, and certain lines from that e-mail became running jokes at out game sessions.
By “feminist propaganda” they are probably referring to the false sexism allegations that game journalists have been using to slander the company.
Yeah, it’s exactly what you said.
Ignore the downvotes; either people don’t know the history of what the Devs went through, or ignore it on purpose.
Ugh, g*mers.
What did they go through?
Harassment by bs activists.
All because they didn’t pay the Dei mob
Who are the activists and what does DEI have to do with this? I am very confused and you have answered with riddles.
Did you see the other post? That user summed it up perfectly
The studio refused an offer by Sweet Baby Inc of a 7m$ consultation. Right after that happened, games journalists like IGN started making articles accusing the studio of sexism. The “evidence” was several anonymous sources (in other words, made up, until at least one of them comes forward) and a few (possibly purposefully) mistranslated quotes that sound sexist in the mistranslations but are at most a little vulgar in the original language.
Even after the mistranslations were debunked, the journalists made no effort to retract or edit their articles, and as of today the only thing they have that could possibly paint the studio in a bad light are these anonymous sources but those cannot be verified and are therefore not valid. They’re likely completely made up.
apotheotic (she/her)Maybe say that then? Rather than saying something that can only be construed as bigoted?
Maybe it was mistranslated? (Again)
celestehttps://www.ign.com/articles/how-black-myth-wukong-developers-history-of-sexism-is-complicating-its-journey-to-the-west Is this the sort of article you mean?
How Black Myth: Wukong Developer’s History of Sexism Is Complicating its Journey to the West - IGN
For an indie studio that has only released mobile titles within China, this widespread acclaim over Black Myth: Wukong is a largely unprecedented feat, particularly for a game that has not been released yet. But beneath the luster of this souls-like, Game Science is plagued by claims of sexism.
Yes. This article is one of them. There is no evidence of sexism. Just a bunch of mistranslated messages that once properly translated aren’t sexist at all. IGN has already been called out for this, and the tweets have been community noted.
IGN did actually make a non-apology along the lines of “well they should have just commented on the accusations”, but the studio has no obligation responding to accusation from a bunch of people of some dying medium. Ignoring them is no doubt the best thing the studio can do.
Other journalists have since also made stories covering this and know that the statements are false so they started using weasel wording such as “sexist remarks being attributed to” instead of “they said”. It is so obvious that they’re doing this on purpose to hurt the reputation of the studio.
I don’t get how you’re being downvoted for just stating facts.
It’s not like you’re making anything up without any actual evidence, and yet, people just want to hate anything with the words “sexist” or “DEI” because that means the party opposing them is automatically wrong.
It is unfortunately hard to convince someone once they’ve made up their mind.
But as long as people indifferent to the situation see my comment and get a fuller picture, I’m fine with it.
I tend to take a contrarian stance on a lot of things because if it turns out I’m wrong, people will correct me, and I learn something, so downvotes don’t bother me at all.
It’s not a contrarian stance when you’re right, like in this case.
And people are still trying to convince you that you’re wrong, so you have to ignore comments if you know you’re right as well.
Is mentioning Barbara Streisand in this context feminist propaganda? 😄
Lol. Who even plays Chinese shit games? Fuckers still practice cannibalism over there.
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Could add a reference to the coup against Xi, too. Dunno if it’s true, but it’s probably something whoever is in control of the CCP would want to censor either way, at least until they are ready to openly replace Xi if it is true (though even then, they probably won’t be calling it a coup).
What does all the chinese text say?
I assuming it says the same thing as the English before it, but in Chinese.
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littlecoltI haven’t wanted to pirate a game this much since Hogwarts.
chickenSo this is a request made in the context of emails sent out gifting streamers promotional copies of the game, not a condition of paid promotional streams, am I getting that right?
LinkerbaanCCP having a heated gamer moment
CohhCarnage said something about this.
Game Devs often include requests along these lines for sponsored segments of a stream (and only the parts of the stream paid for), including talking about COVID during the high point of the COVID pandemic.
The odd part that he noted is some of the specific wording, that he attributed to mistranslation - like “feminist propaganda”.
I have no idea about the parts relating to Chinese game dev.
The benefit of the doubt in me says: this is some bad translation and culture disconnect.
The pragmatist in me says: this guides content creators. So, take such content with a pinch of salt in these regards - play the game if it actually seems decent.
I feel like the pragmatist is pretty much default these days, all content guides you to some conclusion. So do what the fuck you want.
🦜☠️ (Idk what the emoji is. I’m sure you understand) If it really rubs you the wrong way