You can call me Yaz
Steve Troughton-SmithThere are folks who still, to this day, won't touch Microsoft products because of Microsoft's behavior in the 90s — nearly 30 years later. People have long memories. Apple today makes 90s Microsoft look like a saint
Joel Pomales
Antranig Vartanian 
@stroughtonsmith early in my life, I didn’t touch MS's products because of their behavior. Currently I don't because they are just bad, objectively bad.
I touch Apple products, but I disable all things bad with them. I feel like that's something you can't do with Microsoft Products.
And finally, let's stop comparing Coca Cola vs Pepsi, the right answer is clean water, aka #Linux, #GNU, #BSD, #illumos
gameshack_ 
@stroughtonsmith so i’m not the only one who feels like Apple is acting like Microsoft did back then? Good.
Toph Allen@stroughtonsmith Definitely starting to feel like ethically compromised products to me — like by using Apple products I'm implicitly supporting this company that would really love to take 30% of *all* transactions
Ryan Germann 
@toph @stroughtonsmith If they weren't a monopoly, market forces would have driven that down to 10% or less, with choice of App Store you publish your apps on... is the Competition Bureau totally asleep at the wheel?
John Gordon@stroughtonsmith 90s MSFT was pretty bad. Apple is worse, but maybe only 30% worse.
Mark@jgordon @stroughtonsmith Why are we hating Apple again?
@mark I can only speak for me: Photos.mac stupidities and inadequacies and what I consider a deep moat blocking competition for that app.
Photos are very important to me.
Tad van Sander 🇺🇦🇵🇸@stroughtonsmith I ditched Microsoft 17 years ago and never looked back. Till now.
Robert J. Berger@stroughtonsmith Sorry but there is no comparison. Microsoft set back computing by decades. Apple is doing completely different things that may not be good, but they are business things. They are not destroying or setting back computing in general.
@rberger …you're joking, right? You don't think 16 years of the App Store has set back computing? There's almost no other kind of computing left!
@stroughtonsmith Only applies to iphones and iPad. Even on the Mac you can still use stuff that isn’t on the App Store and of course if you use any other OS the App Store has no impact.
Microsoft forced its monopoly on every PC manufactured and made their OS terrible just to protect it from being cloned, just to name a few of the things. We had decades of bad computing monoculture due to Microsoft.
@stroughtonsmith That being said, IMHO Apple should be prosecuted for monopoly actions with the App Store.
Charlie Stross@rberger @stroughtonsmith Yup, I'm down with this. But? Even if Apple allowed rival app stores and non-Apple approved apps on iPhones, I'd keep mine locked to their store. Damn thing is too important—online banking, identity management, 2FA token, password vault—to risk exposing it to sketchy stuff. I'd actually like an optional MORE restricted app store, with Apple explicitly backing the safety and integrity of a limited range of apps on it, for security-first customers.
TransitBiker@stroughtonsmith @rberger early days App Store was an absolute chaotic mess. There was that one app that you could pay thousands of dollars for literally nothing.
Jerry Orr@TransitBiker @stroughtonsmith @rberger ah yes, the “I Am Rich” app! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_Rich
Melroy van den Berg
Marcel Wouters@stroughtonsmith the kind of badness has changed, but Microsoft is mostly still bad
Robert Kist 🇦🇹🇸🇬@stroughtonsmith I won't touch Microsoft because of their attitude, or lack thereof, towards quality... ClearType is still broken; fonts getting visually thinner on HiDPI displays; Teams, MovieMaker (wtf is it now a web app?!), Edge, Bing...a company that can't even follow its own design guidelines. I'm just tired of the mediocrity of it all... and then getting ads and CoPilot everywhere is just the icing on the cake
Dr. Fyzziks@stroughtonsmith LOL! I mean, yeah Apple isn't all that great these days. But they still have a *long* way to go to match 90's Microsoft's level of ruthlessness and contempt. I hope they never finish that part of the puzzle.
Stephen Dioxide 
@stroughtonsmith This is why I've been on Linux full time since 2006.
I know not everyone has the option, because ShinyCorporateApp© doesn't run on it, but seriously, unless your work requires a really specific app, give it a look. It's way easier to use than it used to be. Also, it doesn't spy on you. Also, it's free.
Ji Fu@stroughtonsmith I see a difference though in that in the 90s I don't recall there being Windoze fan bois or Microsoft apologists. Apple brainwashing is strong.