Is there any company more out of touch with creatives right now than Apple?

It feels incredibly weird to say this, but it sadly is true. Asking for 30% from Patreon subscriptions – in this climate – is garbage.

Read the room.

https://wavelengths.online/posts/thirty-percent

Thirty Percent - Wavelengths

[crush.jpg] From Patreon’s official blog: “As we first announced last year, Apple is requiring that Patreon use their in-app purchasing system and remove all other billing systems from the Patreon...

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@viticci is this something different to how they've handled subscriptions? YouTube charges $18.99 thru the AS, but $13.99 directly.

@godofbiscuits @viticci no, I think it’s the same thing. I think Patreon is just trying to get out of managing subscriptions and payments and then blame the price hike Apple.

I’m not saying the 30% flat cut is fair, just that it’s been their policy forever and Patreon could avoid it by managing the subscriptions/payments themselves.

Basically, Patreon is trying to maximize Patreon‘s profits while blaming Apple, who is trying to maximize Apple‘s profits, and the creators lose due to the greed of two corporations .

@markmevans @viticci

I wasn't looking to compare Patreon to Google, I just didn't know if there was a technological or business distinction I was missing.

That said, your description sounds a bit too simplistic; I pay for YT Premium and YT is also full of creators, and that set overlaps significantly with Patreon’s creators, and i don't feel like YT Google's behavior/pricing for Premium considered the creators for a nanosecond.