A new rule for journalists.
End the interview on the first egregious lie.
Turn the lights out, switch off the recorder, get up and leave.
And your report should state clearly that this is why the interview was terminated.
It never should have been tolerated in the first place.
Nah, he didn't answer any questions. He just spewed out words.
Donald Trump rambled and lied for over an hour without any follow up questions or fact-checking. MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell says that while he hopes Vice President Harris answers questions from reporters, after the press conference that Donald Trump turned into a “charade,” Vice President Harris has “absolutely no greater obligation to do so because of what Donald Trump pretended to do today.”
@davew thank you have been screaming this at
The tv For years Now.
And frankly it would Make NEWS! (The first 30 times). There could be a count on the nightly news of the names of news orgs and journos who refused to continue.
And then it would save your org and all of us time and money.
I believe you dont do this because you want the next one
Getting called on in next presser
Getting answer to your next shouted question in the gaggle
Getting the next interview
Scoop
Job
Otherwise they're stenographers, not journalists.
@davew I'd be happy to give them one (and ONLY one) warning:
"That's obviously not true. Would you care to change your statement?"
Then they get exposed and are forced to either tell the truth (hah!), or get left sitting in the dark.
Yes I would give them a chance to correct it too.
@swordgeek @davew perhaps even better to catch it at source. I believe in New Zealand politicians can be sued for telling flat lies. Legislation like that would concentrate their minds wonderfully, and be a massive support to democracy.
God knows democracy needs all the support it can get just now.
@kolya @Kipppunkt @davew I think people who believe in certain „big lies“ aren‘t stupid, but tricked and emotionally abused. And I don‘t think such violent behaviour by certain liars can be tolerated, that it goes far beyond being „unwelcome“.
What I‘d like to see is interviewers who just keep persisting on such a lie after first occurence, visibly no longer taking the person serious. Who laughingly and forcefully persist until someone cries, time runs out or the guest just leaves.
let the liars find another way to misinform the people.
@kolya @Kipppunkt @davew You're describing how the current US system works.
Reporters spent the pres. campaign saying "this is a lie" and then broadcasting the lies and then saying "that was a lie, here are the facts".
People "do their own research," find confirmatory misinformation online, decide that the lies are facts and the facts are lies because that's what they want to believe, and stop believing the reporter.
Rebuttals aren't enough.
@davew That's not going to happen. I saw Jake Tapper do it once. I forgot who he was interviewing. I suspect CNN reprimanded Tapper because it hasn't happened again despite numerous opportunities.
Boycott advertisers, cancel subscriptions, cut out your viewing and tell the owners why. The journalists work for them, not for us
@davew Yup, do that and watch just how quickly American politics change.
Mind you, there will always be scum sucking networks like Fox that will air any lie unchecked but that's on them.
@davew would be a brilliant idea if most journalists were honest and unbiased. Unfortunately TV hosts apply double standards, easy questions for the politicians they like, and making their best to discredit the other ones.
Imagine the scene:
TV anchor: So, Mr Sanders, your manifesto says you want to tax the rich, but everyone knows that's impossible, so what would you do were you to be elected?
Bernie: Of cours it is possible, and I...
TV anchor: That's an egregious lie! End of the interview!
they aren't journalists imho if they can't agree to that simple rule.
absolutely. 100% agree.
@deriamis @davew @mastodonmigration
Correct. You're asking a question, a few guys raise their hands, opinions may differ, but in all other settings, you never let the known, notorious idiot and liar answer it. Never, ever.
What the media are doing here is the active promotion of lies and they know it pretty dammn well, because they're all professionals. Shame on 'em!
»What the Media Are Doing to Our Politics« by John Lloyd probably describes it better, BTW...
@GNUmatic @davew @mastodonmigration Thanks for the recommendation! I’ll see if I can find time to consume it.
I have been thinking about why anyone, especially someone whose profession involves knowing the effects of media and promotion, would participate in what’s been going on the last few decades. Then I realized that it’s probably been happening since the dawn of human language. The personal incentives are the same, but the effect is now far greater with modern knowledge and technology.
@deriamis @davew @mastodonmigration
Sad trivia:
They do have a kind of code of conduct, yet nobody seems to give a shit any longer.
https://www.presserat.de/pressekodex.html
I would also like to note that media folks tend to be rather priviledged if not outright wealthy, tend to have far more contacts and talk with people who are even more priviledged, so they also develop a priviledged agenda, often purposefully on behalf of media tycoons. I'm not suggesting they should be kept poor, but it visibly fails.
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