When the company calls their home appliances "smart", what I hear is:

- they spent money on features I don't care about
- those features will be worse than standalone devices but will drive them out of market (looking at you TVs)
- the appliance is more likely to break
- my data is likely being sold to advertisers
- when the company loses interest in it and cut support, I will need to buy a new device

So no, I don't want "smart" home appliances.

If I buy a TV, I want a TV that shows channels and to which I can plug other devices to watch the other stuff.

If I buy speakers, I want to connect whatever I have to them and not risk remote bricking of devices by manufacturer.

@hamatti Other people have other use cases. I *don't* want a TV that "shows channels" as that would be no use to me as I don't have a TV licence. I want a TV that plays DVDs (and yes, I accept that that's via another device) and shows stuff from the internet (and I don't see why that should need another device, it's only software and the telly already has a computer in it).

@TimWardCam @hamatti But why would you need software running that's connected via the internet to play DVDs or even Bluerays?

All of this was long possible without running deprecated forks of Android on our TVs.

@thejackimonster @hamatti I wouldn't. I "would need software running that's connected via the internet" to play content that's on the internet, such as Netflix.