I've been watching through a series of a guy fixing game consoles with electrical issues ( https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPPvwjMj29nAmcOq0Pn3zHkHxX35xfeGG&si=iZGmINLNDHUQbYEO) and WOW the Xbox Series X/S has some weird issues.

If the SATA connector is bad on the optical drive, updates will fail to install.
Not updates off discs, mind you. Ones downloaded from the internet

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In typical Microsoft fashion it doesn't tell you "couldn't update as the optical drive isn't responding" or "the optical drive has the wrong serial", it just makes it 60% through a system update and then fails with a generic error

They serial lock the motherboard and disc drive, so if the optical drive failed (because a kid stuck a butter knife in it or something), you can't just swap in a working optical drive.

You instead have to have a donor optical drive, desolder the PCB, and swap in the PCB from the broken drive.

Otherwise it'll just refuse to use the drive.

Naturally sometimes the problem with the optical drive is ON the PCB! This makes the repair job much trickier
@foone this is 100% because of the 360. hacked drive firmware and ODEs made that console a joke to pirates.
@foone That sounds pretty typical of Microsoft.
@foone Apple does the same bullshit with their parts and it should seriously be illegal. Right-to-repair laws can't come soon enough.
@foone yeaaah, more specific errors would be great. I can tell you tho that the update fails bc the hardware didn't pass the console's security checks (as it can't talk with the optical drive)
@foone at my previous job, if a user account was setup with an age of 0, the iOS app failed at login with a "wrong password or email" error.
@foone That just sounds like the logical conclusion to the drive locking shenanigans on previous generations.
@foone at this point it gets hard to tell if it's sheer incompetence that causes this or malicious intention
@foone interesting, I usually watch this guy doing repairs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xix7qzbOT6Q
Nice to discover a new channel.
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I personally usually end up watching people repair old computers instead, like this channel:

https://www.youtube.com/@adriansdigitalbasement/featured

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@foone Oh cool, the Microsoft adopted the PlayStation 4/5 update issue too?
(Not sure if PS3 is affected)

@foone I have this problem with my ps4. I removed the disk drive because it was causing it to overheat and I didn't want to take the whole thing apart. Then the disk drive got lost somewhere.

Apparently you cannot update a PS4 without a disk drive, so now I cant play Bloodborne online, despite never having used a disk for it.