going to drown everyone on the phantom dust subreddit in a swamp because i'm trying to troubleshoot something with this game and every. fucking. thread. where someone is asking about this the answer is just "join our discord and ask there!"
eat absolute shit, fuck you
@Elucidating @danhon basically the killer feature of reddit is that if I search for a problem I can find a reddit thread of someone with that problem eight years ago. If the only answer is join a discord I have to hope that discord link still works, I have to hope that discord even still exists, and I have to attempt to find my problem sifting through who knows how many years of casual chitchat with one of the worst search functions ever. Or I have to ask people my question and hope I don't get yelled at because they've spent eight years answering this same question over and over.
And every single other person with this problem has to do this.
@lori @danhon first of all: phantom dust? Sick! 🤘
Second: fighting games are in shambles because of this. We used to have gamefaqs, which was *fine*, then a huge upgrade to community wikis like vfdc or srk. Now we've regressed to a constellation of competing sites, mobile apps, unlisted google docs, and unsearchable discord posts.
People are making *character-specific* discords and spreading game information across dozens of silos per game 🤦
There is no information in discords.
There are ephemeral conversations in discords.
Information resides in documentation:
README,
FAQs,
man pages,
documentation websites,
blogs even.
If your project isn't good enough to write authoritative documentation on using it, it's not good enough for anyone to use.
@Theriac like my problem is someone is asking my exact question on reddit, and instead of answering them on reddit, people are telling them to go to their discord to get answers
I found six or seven threads with my exact problem where every answer was join this discord
@Theriac I'm not encouraging reddit use.
The real issue is that someone who is already on reddit, asking their question on reddit, is being redirected to a discord that we already know isn't easily publicly viewable instead of just answering it. If reddit becomes paywalled (which frankly I think will just kill it) then we can deal with that but right now people are diverting people from reddit to a place that's already in that position for no good reason.
@lori For the longest time I couldn't figure out the point of forums and threads on Discord because trying to find anything is like throwing open all your drawers to find a specific screw or cable.
Then I realised they wanted to capture and lock in forum users:
https://brologue.net/2024/04/11/enscattification/
Nearly every fan game or ROM hack project these days are on Discord; those guilds contain the only canonical download source.
Take a shot every time you see 'Join our Discord server:'
@lori I was going to do a post about Pokémom Emerald Rogue and how this is a welcome exception:
https://www.pokecommunity.com/threads/pokemon-emerald-rogue.479406/
Then I found out, surprise surprise, ALL of the documentation provided by the community (guides, etc.) are in GDocs links.
GDocs links whose only canonical source is their fucking Discord guild.
This is so, so, 𝘴𝘰 painfully egregious, and it's *not* out of malice... but my god, please mirror your links SOMEWHERE, ANYWHERE public.
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