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Republicans worry Trump is having a ‘public nervous breakdown’

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Republicans worry Trump is having a ‘public nervous breakdown’ - Lemmy.World

‘Donald Trump is losing his marbles,’ former Congressman and Republican Adam Kinzinger said Republicans are concerned that party leader Donald Trump [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/adin-ross-trump-stream-cybertruck-b2591605.html] is having a “public nervous breakdown” after he made a series of offensive outbursts about Vice President Kamala Harris [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/kamala-harris-vp-pick-tim-walz-election-b2591978.html] as he slips behind her in the polls. The former president has made a number of insulting personal attacks [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/kamala-harris-biden-republicans-attacks-b2579307.html] against his Democratic rival since she moved to the top of the ticket. Last week, Trump [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-barron-adin-ross-b2591980.html] questioned Harris’s racial identity [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-convention-harris-ethnicity-race-nabj-b2589136.html] at the National Association of Black Journalists conference. Over the weekend, he accused Harris of having a “low IQ.” New polls indicate Trump [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-adin-ross-cybertruck-assassination-b2591627.html] is slipping [https://www.realclearpolling.com/] behind the vice president in the popular vote and races are tightening in battleground states. “This is what you would call a public nervous breakdown,” Matthew Bartlett, a Republican strategist and former Trump state department appointee, told Politico [https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/05/republicans-cringe-trump-harris-attacks-00172724].

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Flying Squid Aug 7, 2024

They’re only worried that it will happen before the election.

dhork Aug 7, 2024

Well, they probably also realize that if it happens after he wins, and he can’t continue in office, then no couch in the country is safe.

Encephalotrocity Aug 7, 2024

Vance’s first presidential decree: All couches shall from now on be referred to as loveseats

Flying Squid Aug 7, 2024

I am worried about his homosectional agenda.

KingJalopy Aug 7, 2024

Oh that’s fucking hilarious

The Picard Maneuver Aug 7, 2024

You struck gold with this one, lol

Flying Squid Aug 7, 2024

Admittedly, I’ve waited like three days for the right moment.

Burn_The_Right Aug 7, 2024

And the internet has been won by… A squid, ladies and gentlemen.

Damn fine comment.

dogslayeggs Aug 7, 2024

I’ll just throw this right here:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcaYfIxMfyk

The State- Barry and Levon- The Love seat

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AbidanYre Aug 7, 2024

he can’t continue in office

Based on Reagan’s second term, nothing short of actually being dead would meet that criteria.

frezik Aug 7, 2024

Nah, Vance is more self serving. He’ll 25th Amendment himself into the job as soon as he has an excuse.

ours Aug 7, 2024

He has his eyes set on that sweet, sweet, oval office couch.

sigmaklimgrindset Aug 7, 2024

Him, or his overlord Peter Thiel?

ShaggySnacks Aug 8, 2024

Both, Vance will try to double cross Peter Thiel however Thiel has all the sweet, sweet billionaire money.

MagicShel Aug 7, 2024

He can take away my vote, but I’ll be dammed if I accept jus primae noctis with my furniture.

Nomecks Aug 7, 2024

It’s called a Narcissistic Shame/Rage Spiral.

mad_asshatter Aug 7, 2024

This guy analyses.

givesomefucks Aug 7, 2024

There’s only a handful of people in the world trump could beat in an election…

And he never imagined Biden would actually get out of the way, so he has no idea what to do now that it’s not Biden.

TrippaSnippa Aug 7, 2024

I am absolutely convinced that Trump’s entire election strategy was to just coast to victory on “Biden old” and “I got shot”. By the time of the republican convention he was confident that he had it in the bag and didn’t need to keep trying, so when Biden dropped out it completely shattered his plan and he’s got nothing else to replace it. He does not have the cognitive ability to pivot against Harris/Walz and his ego is way too big to actually listen to his campaign strategists (if he even has any that aren’t just yes men).

givesomefucks Aug 7, 2024

Harris isn’t a guaranteed win, but she’d have to royally fuck up to blow this election.

trump just isn’t as popular as he used to be. The last two elections there was trump shit all over my red state. I haven’t seen a single trump bumpper sticker. Not even old ones from prior elections.

dhork Aug 7, 2024

If there’s one thing I’ve learned in my life, though, it’s to never underestimate the ability of a Democrat to royally fuck something up.

phdepressed Aug 7, 2024

She’s got a long list of stuff to fix that will require both houses of congress. If we give her a majority of non-moderate Dems there’s hope. Obama didn’t fuck up too bad besides trying to compromise with Rs for “bipartisanship” until they retook the House and Senate at which point they kneecapped him politically. He was too much an idealist imo. She seems wise enough to not fall for that. Maybe I’m giving her too much credit but being media quiet while VP has allowed her to more easily distance from Biden’s shittier policies like Israel-Palestine and push for more on climate/women now that she has a campaign lead by herself.

Since I know and support many of her stated policy stances the biggest question for me is how to reform SCOTUS, regulate voting rights (e.g. RCV or France style) and stop media disinformation without infringing on the 1st amendment.

PriorityMotif Aug 7, 2024

The only reason anybody has ever put out a Trump flag, bumper sticker, worn a red hat is because they want to bait people into a confrontation. It turns out, it’s just a way of telling people not to talk to you because you are just looking for a confrontation.

Starbuck Aug 7, 2024

I think this is something that is hard to overstate. Back in 2016, I went out to northern Pennsylvania to see a friend out there, and the amount of Trump shit I saw blew my blue state mind. Then I did another trip down to North Carolina and saw so much.

In 2020, I went out to both of those places again and there was a bunch of 2016 stuff out there, but not as much new stuff.

I haven’t been up to see my friend in a few years now, but driving through parts of North Carolina I don’t see anything, new or old. I think the rank and file are getting sick of him.

Sciaphobia Aug 7, 2024

That shit is still everywhere where I am. Vote as if he’s a popular as he ever was, because in some areas he sure seems to be.

lewdian69 Aug 7, 2024

I get the rage but shame? That’s not a thing Trump has

Num10ck Aug 7, 2024

narcissists don’t shame themselves, they try to shame non-loyalists.

lolcatnip Aug 7, 2024

I think he feels shame, but not about things that would make a normal person feel shame. Like, I’m pretty sure losing or appearing weak make him feel shame, but hurting people doesn’t.

samus12345 Aug 7, 2024

No, I don’t think those things make him feel shame, either, just anger.

dhork Aug 7, 2024

… But they will vote for him anyway, because doing otherwise is basically admitting you were wrong all along, and they would never do that.

snooggums Aug 7, 2024

Has his behavior changed? Trump seems to be spouting the same kind of nonsense he always has. This just seems to be more of the same weird rants.

The D Quuuuuill Aug 7, 2024

The best time to wake up to that Donald Trump is a weird racist who should be ignored was 1988. The second best time is now

Optional Aug 7, 2024

“I think we’re starting to see the old Trump that a lot of Republicans got tired of in 2020, got tired of defending him,”

Oh are they tired of defending a traitorous rapist conman? They’re tired of defending a sociopath and grotesque manbaby for the singular purpose of jamming through the most regressive laws and judges anyone could imagine? Awwww. Poor lot of republiQans.

Sc00ter Aug 7, 2024

Let’s not be fooled. They defended him because he could help them. Now that he’s not polling as favorably, trump has less to offer for their support

Optional Aug 7, 2024

Is that better that cultishly believing his obvious lies?

Burn_The_Right Aug 7, 2024

Why should they be tired? After scouring the nation for the person who most accurately represents them, conservatives have consistently chosen Trump as the one who most closely reflects their sentiments. He is their accurate reflection.

They’ve re-affirmed their leader for eight solid years now. They get to own this and they should never be thought of apart from him. Just as nazis are always associated with Hitler, Republicans should always be associated with Trump. Always.

spacelick Aug 7, 2024

The behavior hasn’t substantially changed, but the narrative is shifting. Trump took office on the back of a wave of sardonic, nihilistic memes. He was constantly excused for being bigoted and unintelligible because his dork enlightenment cronies could cynically spin everything as nine dimensional water backgammon. The fact they weren’t making sense was a plus, not a minus.

Biden dropping out and team Kamala stepping up so hard so fast on the meme front has completely taken the right by surprise. They weren’t mobilized to defend against this. So now they’re on the back foot, the memes from the mainstream left are sharper and meaner than Trumpworld has ever had to deal with before, and the messaging is laser focused.

Spouting nonsense only works if it looks like you’re winning by doing so. Don just keeps showing how old, tired, and weak he really is, so the cracks are forming. Just think of all the political capital he’s spent trying to make diapers cool, and then he makes a VP pic who Snopes has confirmed literally fucked a couch on live video.)

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Xeroxchasechase Aug 7, 2024

Didn’t click the link, but I really really hope it’s Rickrolling…

SkyezOpen Aug 7, 2024

XcQ

cygnus Aug 7, 2024

XcQ, link stays blue

Flying Squid Aug 7, 2024

Get out of here with this fake news! There’s no video! This is just a hit on Vance!

Again, there is no video of J.D. Vance fucking a couch. He only wrote about it in his autobiography (chapter 11, page 180).

expr Aug 7, 2024

I assume you’re just memeing siince he never actually wrote about that?

Flying Squid Aug 7, 2024

If he didn’t write it, maybe Jesse Watters should be demanding to see the book and not just a video he could masturbate to.

dailydot.com/…/fox-news-jesse-watters-jd-vance-co…

'You better have video': Fox News demands proof of couch over JD Vance rumors

Watters claimed the joke is a Russiagate, COVID-19 level hoax orchestrated by Dems.

The Daily Dot

expr Aug 7, 2024

Just gonna share this here anyway since I fell for it originally:

www.snopes.com/…/jd-vance-couch-cushions/

No, JD Vance Did Not Say He Had Sex with Couch Cushions

A false online rumor about former U.S. President Donald Trump's running mate, a latex glove and couch cushions spawned a number of jokes and memes.

Snopes

Flying Squid Aug 7, 2024

Snopes doesn’t need to be “helping” right now.

expr Aug 7, 2024

I’m confused… Are you saying we should encourage disinformation?

Flying Squid Aug 7, 2024

Yes. I am saying America should be convinced that J.D. Vance fucks couches.

Because that’s what you do when the opponents do things like say your candidates turned black all of a sudden or that he wasn’t born in the United States.

expr Aug 7, 2024

I mean, there’s so much bullshit to use against them we hardly need to stoop to lies. The truth is already incredibly damning and is tearing them apart right now.

Flying Squid Aug 7, 2024

“When they go low, we go high” almost never works in politics. So good luck telling people that they’re smearing poor J.D. Vance with a terrible lie.

expr Aug 7, 2024

I’m not saying we go high. By all means, rip into them. The Harris campaign is doing a great job of that, using the truth. There’s so much ammunition that the lies are just a drop in the bucket and serve no real purpose other than distortion. It’s just pretty pointless.

Flying Squid Aug 7, 2024

and serve no real purpose other than distortion.

Dude, I just showed you that Jesse Watters devoted airtime to getting upset about it. So that’s demonstrably untrue.

spacelick Aug 7, 2024

Also, it creates social media engagement much like this thread, so that whether or not somebody believes the truth (that JD personally documented the experience of losing his virginity to a musty piece of furniture) they’re still engaging with the idea the whole time they read and respond. That’s called memetic fitness.

Flying Squid Aug 7, 2024

And every moment spent by Republicans defending Vance against this rumor is a moment not spent on campaigning for Trump.

Optional Aug 7, 2024

I hear what expr is saying though - several Democratic-voting people I know actually thought it was real in the initial scrum of the meme. That part I’m not so big on. Everyone going wink-wink-nudge dude fucked a couch is fine.

Flying Squid Aug 7, 2024

What difference does it make if they think it’s real? I don’t see how that makes a difference in the grand scheme of things. People believe much sillier things that aren’t true all the time.

Optional Aug 7, 2024

I’d prefer my own political party to believe truthful things. Despite the wild success the reverse has shown in other parties.

Call it a quirk.

ChadCMulligan Aug 7, 2024

Well, put your mind at ease. The Democratic Party doesn’t think jd Vance fucked a couch.

Optional Aug 7, 2024

Which members? Because 100% for sure some of them believe it. When I heard it “was in the first edition of the book” part I was sorely tempted myself.

It’s a trifle. Not important, and barely a whisper of a shadow of the simplest lie the republiQans tell on an hourly basis. But for the record, there absolutely are Democrats voting for Kamala that believe it to be true. That’s just how media works. Especially when it’s so plausible.

Flying Squid Aug 7, 2024

Well then wake me up when they stop deifying JFK. Otherwise I’m not too concerned about a couch-fucking rumor.