The suburbs considered as ...

... the Backrooms: https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2022/1/13/american-suburbs-are-a-horror-movie-and-were-the-protagonists

A terrific essay in which the author -- who lives in the Austin suburbs -- considers why she feels creeped-out and uncertain when walking through her suburb at night to a grocery store a few miles away ...

... and realizes it's because it feels precisely like one of the "liminal spaces" people share online

American Suburbs Are a Horror Movie and We’re the Protagonists

Walking alone to the grocery store is, for me, like walking through a creepy hallway at night. Why? Because America is filled with liminal spaces.

Strong Towns

It's a great essay, but what hilariously nails it are the three photos she posts halfway down the essay

Read the captions

the caption of the fifth photo really seals the deal lololol

(Of course, none of this would come as a surprise to John Carpenter 😂 ...

... or the directors of the original X-files series)

@clive I moved to the suburbs last year, after living in NYC for about 9 years, and definitely have felt this way myself.

@stefan

I spent the first third of my life living in a Toronto suburb

we had some commercial strips that were more densely built than this ...

... but also some pretty ghostly parts.I transited so many weird interstitial spaces like this on my bike

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@clive @Voline
+1 to the essay.

I once worked a software contract out in the western suburbs of the Twin Cities, and one day decided to take a weekday afternoon walk through the nearby residential neighborhood.

It was like The Day After. Dead. Neat houses, trimmed lawns, and not a single other living animal.

It wasn’t until I finally saw another person that I realized I’d started tensing my shoulders and taking shallow breaths. Completely creeped me out.

@inthehands @Voline

Yep, total Blue Velvet territory

@clive My fears in surburbia are not from it being a liminal space. I fear surburbia because of the violent thugs.
@clive Yeah, I remember feeling exactly this when I went back to my Scarborough neighborhood after living downtown — deeply sketched out, even in the middle of the day — and I described in exactly the same terms, even then: “in suburbia, no one can hear you scream”. I was a literal teen girl living at Church and Carlton but there was also a 24h Hasty Market and a pancake place on my block, and always people around.
@clive [to be fair, that was also the heyday of Bernardo/Homolka so my estimation of relative risk/safety at that time was not only exactly correct but was being maliciously exploited]

@debcha

yeah fair enough, that was a super terrible moment

but I know you mean about living right downtown and how the density made one feel safe!

I had a related experience when I was cycling across the country — I felt most exposed, even as a middle-aged guy, when I was in the middle of nowhere

there was no one around for dozens of miles in either direction

It something went wrong, I was just incredibly isolated

@clive Yep.

But without question, I’d prefer the bear.

@clive Have you seen Get Out? Also, check out this Arcade Fire music video if you haven’t https://youtu.be/NuSbELCNloc?si=5aGdxGlDWfuc39Rs
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@Lyle

Yeah get out and “us” both play with the creepiness of exurban areas

@Lyle

I hadn’t seen that video though, thank you for it!

@clive grew up in Middle Of Nowhere Lite. 30 minute drive from the nearest supermarket, well outside of suburbia. Never felt like this except when something actually dangerous cropped up like a snake or a dog. Wandered around in the woods for hours every day.

Isolation isn't scary, people are.

@clive
I suspect it's the other way round:
Horror movies derive directly from American suburbs.