Brodie RobertsonAug 1, 2024
Asahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::live

My story with Luna

This is a story of what I've had to live through for the past 7 months. I know it's long, but please read it. At this point @cyan and I just want the abuse to stop and to be left alone.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W2Vvwg0rwSVb5r4TQ_NmAF8SxIXAHPGEZnELgwS36yE/edit

Update 9 months later: Luna did not stop her abuse, instead she escalated it. Part 2: https://vt.social/@lina/114453525309759623

My story with Luna (LunaFoxgirlVT)

TW: Attempted suicide, self-harm, emotional and mental abuse, gaslighting My story with Luna Twitter: @LunaFoxgirlVT | Bluesky: @lunafoxgirlvt.foxgirls.gay This document was first written and kept private in June 2024, after Luna had repeatedly accused me of being an abuser to my friends and som...

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Show threadAsahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::liveAug 1, 2024
On Twitter: https://x.com/LinaAsahi/status/1819004083983773920
Asahi Lina / 朝日リナ // The Yellow Cyan Nyan ✨ (@LinaAsahi) on X

My story with Luna This is a story of what I've had to live through for the past 7 months. I know it's long, but please read it. At this point @CyanNyan6 and I just want the abuse to stop and to be left alone. https://t.co/9yeatht6AY

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Show threadJoshixAug 1, 2024
@lina @cyan the link always redirects me to https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/32050
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Show threadEmelia/EmiAug 1, 2024
@joshix There's a lot of traffic to the document at the moment, so drive's doing some automated self-protection stuff, which may be causing that? It worked fine for me, albeit in a "reduced preview mode" due to that.
Show threadJoshixAug 1, 2024
@becomethewaifu wtf? Why can't google handle that? They are fucking google.
Show threadEmelia/EmiAug 1, 2024
@joshix Most of google's scalability magic is horizontal, in that they can have ungodly amounts of different docs being edited at once, but the architecture doesn't scale that well for an individual document. (tens of thousands of servers running drive doesn't do squat when every user who wants that specific document has to bang on the same set of three to get a copy...)
Show threadJesse W. Aug 1, 2024
@lina @cyan That's a lot. I hope the two of you are able to be happy and left alone, and all involved can get better.
Show threadAsahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::liveAug 1, 2024
@KzintiCV @cyan Thank you... ;;
Show threadellyAug 1, 2024
@lina @cyan I've read it all since I was quite... shocked to hear someone would try to smear dirt on you.
Even as someone who dealt with many abusers, I have no words to describe Luna's behaviour. That being said:

- Showing no respect for boundaries
- Becoming more and more attached despite clear signs from other person they don't like it
- Trying to demonize you for alleged "betrayal"
- Blaming you for her decline in mental health despite lengths you went to help her
- Weaponizing her mental health/suicidal thoughts to grasp power over your actions via guilt
- Doxxing and misgendering you (hypocrisy much?)
- Possibly more, less apparent red flags

Makes it clear who needed help in this scenario, and who refused it multiple times. Feel free to throw rocks at me, that's just my personal take.

I'm sorry you two have to go trough this 
Show threadAsahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::liveAug 1, 2024
@elly @cyan Thank you so much... ;;
Show threadChristiaan  Aug 1, 2024
@elly thank you very much for summarising 27 pages!
@cyan @lina 🩷
Show threadZILtoid1991Aug 1, 2024

@lina @cyan What about those "mildly inflammatory messages criticizing Asahi Linux, nijilive (the Inochi2D fork), and VT Social itself" messages? If they were truly made, then there should be some evidence for them? In the current state, it's a nothingburger, especially after hearing Luna's side of the story.

Also I've seen ableists trying to invalidate female autistic individuals by claiming "it's BPD, autism is a "boy's disease", and you look nothing like my low functioning second cousin".

Show threadSobexAug 1, 2024
@lina @cyan Sending hugs to the two of you, along with hot beverages, Croissants and Pains au Chocolat.
Show threadCyan Nyan 賽小鹽 // nullptr::liveAug 1, 2024
@Sobex thank you ❤️✨
Show threadAsahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::liveAug 1, 2024
@Sobex @cyan Thank you ;;
Show threadari Aug 1, 2024
@lina @cyan This is… just bad.
Sorry you had to go through this. I hope things get better for you.
Show threadAsahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::liveAug 1, 2024
@ar @cyan Thank you... ;;
Show threadLancelotAug 1, 2024

@lina @cyan I didn't want to see that...

But this is not surprise, the constant self-pitying and self-harm warning while \@everyone-ing on inochi2d's annoucement channel already gave BPD away.

I hope she gets the medical help she needs and that you guys can recover and move on.

Show threadAsahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::liveAug 1, 2024
@zerevo @cyan Thank you... ;;
Show threadMarcAug 1, 2024
@lina @cyan Had no idea this hell was happening in the background while all the fantastic Asahi work was going on... Wish you both the best.
Show threadAsahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::liveAug 1, 2024
@mdiluz @cyan Thank you... ;;
Show threadvinceAug 1, 2024

@lina jfc that's awful 😕 you're a deeply knowledgeable and passionate person, and a gracious host. i guess through a lens of extreme insecurity that might seem overwhelming or intimidating, but that's just not at all a fair characterization. when we chanced to meet you went out of your way to be inclusive and entertaining, help me find gifts and food at weird hours, find my way home safely, and i still cherish those memories

i do hope you get some space to breathe and heal

Show threadAsahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::liveAug 1, 2024
@0x56 Thank you ;;
Show threadint*domi;*domi=0;Aug 1, 2024

@lina @cyan as someone who also went through a lot of BS in the past few years due to my people not respecting my boundaries and being thankless about it later, I can… deeply resonate with parts of this document

sorry this happened to you, and hang in there! hugs

Show threadAsahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::liveAug 1, 2024
@domi @cyan Thank you... ;;
Show threadYuki Hazuki ·𐑘𐑵𐑒𐑘 ·𐑾𐑨𐑟𐑵𐑒𐑘 葉月膤 ❄️ 🏳️‍⚧️Aug 1, 2024
@lina @cyan Aw, this is unfortunate and awful you had to get through this, hope Luna will get some help, and that these events will be behind you

Personally, I was hoping to make a visual novel using Inochi2D to make character posing a bit easier, more automated, and hopefully more dynamic, and I knew integration with Ren'Py was a goal once the major rewrite was done, so I grew disheartened over time with development stalling with Luna's health as everyone else was waiting after that rewrite, so it's nice to see there's other people working on a fork

Do you know if integration with Ren'Py still a goal with the fork? In any case I'll definitely check this out :)
Show threadAsahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::liveAug 1, 2024
@Yuki @cyan I don't know what the status of that is, you'd have to ask seagetch! I think he might be busy with buildsystem stuff and core feature improvements right now, but I'm sure he'd accept contributions around integration too if someone works on it ^^
Show threadAsahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::liveAug 1, 2024
@Yuki @cyan Honestly part of the issue with Inochi2D is just that... Luna is kind of hostile to contributors and doesn't allow them any agency. She wants to maintain full control but she doesn't have the bandwidth herself to really push it forward. So things stall... I'd sort of given up on it really taking off a while back due to this, but I didn't expect things to get so bad that someone else would fork.
Show threadYuki Hazuki ·𐑘𐑵𐑒𐑘 ·𐑾𐑨𐑟𐑵𐑒𐑘 葉月膤 ❄️ 🏳️‍⚧️Aug 1, 2024
@lina @cyan Yeah, definitely, if I remember seagetch was a contributor towards the end, at least for the 0.8 branch while Luna was working on a 0.9, but you could feel he still had his hands tied, so I kind of understand him forking it will give him more leeway into pushing this forward

Also Ren'Py Tom seemed really interested working on this on the Ren'Py side but there was depedencies which made it hard to integrate until the rewrite was done, and of course, that was for Luna to figure it out
Show threadAsahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::liveAug 1, 2024
@Yuki @cyan TBH I think the rewrite is a red herring. The whole idea of Inochi2D was always that it was supposed to be a reference implementation, not *the* canonical implementation. There is already an Inox2D Rust rewrite that is much more suitable for embedding into other projects, and Rust is already more likely to be familiar with people for building in dependencies. But Luna decided to stick with D for everything somehow at some point, and now she's trying to refactor the whole reference D implementation into something that everyone will share and... I just don't think it's going to work.
Show threadYuki Hazuki ·𐑘𐑵𐑒𐑘 ·𐑾𐑨𐑟𐑵𐑒𐑘 葉月膤 ❄️ 🏳️‍⚧️Aug 1, 2024
@lina @cyan Oh, yeah, that was the problem, D isn't easy to work with, and the C bindings needed to work with pretty much every other language under the sun are absolutely lacking, also you were kind of forced to work with whatever renderer the reference implementation used which isn't ideal if you already have a renderer (like Ren'Py)

So as a result it was better rewriting the whole thing if you want to work with it in your project, which still isn't an easy thing to do
Show threadVinícius PeixotoAug 1, 2024
@lina @cyan really awful that you and Cyan had to go through that. very manipulative behavior on Luna's part, i hope she is able to get the help she needs and move on...
Show threadAsahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::liveAug 1, 2024
@nukelet @cyan Thank you...
Show threadKai Aug 1, 2024
@lina @cyan this is all so much... I'm sorry y'all had to go through this, hopefully yall can live in peace
Show threadAsahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::liveAug 1, 2024
@KaiserOfNone @cyan Thank you... ;;
Show threadMARIMO APPRECIATION ACCOUNT Aug 1, 2024
@lina Christ, this is beyond rough. I hope you'll get some of that peace you both deserve.
Show threadAsahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::liveAug 1, 2024
@Deiru Thank you ;;
Show threadstage7 Aug 1, 2024
@lina @cyan Best wishes to both of you, much love. 🫂
Show threadAsahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::liveAug 1, 2024
@stage7 @cyan Thank you ;;
Show threadSorunomeAug 1, 2024

@lina Wha, had absolutely no idea all this was happening. Soru woshed the best to you & cyan, and hopes you'll have somepeaceful, quiet days soon 💚

For Luna, soru hopes you can find professional help and get better! 💚

Show threadAsahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::liveAug 1, 2024
@sorunome Thank you ;;
Show threadPiko Starsider Aug 1, 2024

@lina @cyan As an autistic critter I can also confirm that was not a meltdown. It may be autistic burnout mixed with something else. I don't think autism alone can really explain it.

I wish you two all the best, I hope you can leave all that behind.

I also wish her to find the help she needs. You all deserve to heal in peace, I hope she will understand that. 

Show threadAsahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::liveAug 1, 2024
@starsider @cyan Thank you ;;
Show thread41402-nyanAug 1, 2024
@lina @cyan it honestly hurts reading all of this, can't imagine living through all of it.

I hope things get better for you both from now on
Show threadAsahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::liveAug 1, 2024
@a1ba @cyan Thank you ;;
Show threadRiedlerAug 1, 2024
@lina @cyan why do queer spaces have to generate so much trauma all the time…? I really hope luna moves on and improves, for her own sake, and everyone else’s who was involved.  hugs from austria. Things will get better, never lose hope.
Show threadAsahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::liveAug 1, 2024
@Riedler @cyan Thank you ^^
Show threadStefanie | StefiStarliteAug 1, 2024
@lina @cyan thank you for sharing, wishing you and Cyan the best given the circumstances.
Show threadAsahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::liveAug 1, 2024
@stefistarlite @cyan Thank you ^^
Show threadJuan TraversoAug 1, 2024
@lina @cyan I'm at a loss of words. Best wishes, and all the support.
Show threadImikoyAug 1, 2024
@lina @cyan
Show threadlunya~ 💖Aug 1, 2024
@lina @cyan if i may ask, who is "marcan"? i've seen their name tossed around a lot
Show threadyaygyaAug 1, 2024
@lunanova @lina @cyan that would be Hector Martin, lead of the Asahi Linux project.
Show threadCamille 🇵🇸🇳🇨Aug 1, 2024
@lina @cyan We don't know each other but I followed you for a while now to see the updates of your work on Asahi Linux.
I didn't know you and your girlfriend had to go through that. I'm very sorry for both of you and hope you can both heal and find your peace again. Hang in there! :)
Show threadRaulAug 1, 2024
@lina @cyan Took me a while to read the whole document. I'm shocked, and also very sad to see such level of serious drama that has been going on. I only hope everything will turn for the better for all. Best wishes and serenity for all.
Show threadHenriAug 1, 2024
@lina @cyan First of all, I want to thank you for all that you did to attemt to help her. I hope that you can now move on and not have this hanging over your heads all the time.
Show threadLazerdudeAug 1, 2024
@cyan @lina What an awful situation to go through, unfortunately I can somewhat relate as I used to have a friend that had issues respecting boundaries... Big respect to you for speaking out about it, and I truly hope you and Cyan can have peace.
Show threadnikoAug 1, 2024
@lina @cyan so sorry you had to go through this. I probably can’t say anything you haven’t heard by now, but I wish all the best for both of you
Show threadviolently gay  Aug 1, 2024
@lina @cyan i'm sorry this has happened to both of you. hope cyan is getting used to japan well
Show threadDaniel Django  (Akkoma)Aug 1, 2024
@lina @cyan This was a long and sad story. I hope Luna seeks out professional help.
I wish you all three the best.

Hope to see you and cyan stream soon again.