One of the most American sentiments is this: Live and let live.

Stay out of others’ personal lives.

That’s what’s fueling this “MAGA Republicans are weirdos” vibe. It’s not just fucking weird but *wrong* that they are so concerned with how others, including every woman, chooses to live their own lives.

It rubs most Americans wrong. It’s not a liberal/conservative thing. It’s an American thing.

I think it’s a human thing too — and America should exemplify that aspect of humanity.

@gruber 100%
Russia influence is just a cherry on top
@gruber agree with you (of course) but note that, somehow, maga has convinced itself that allowing people to live how they want impinges on (maga) freedom.

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conservative vs progressive. America is liberal in the classical sense. freedom to do what we want to the degree that it doesn't impact others, and support for reason and dialogue to figure out compromises where our lives overlap.

I don't like calling them weird cause weird is cool. there is no good term cause their movement flexes to whatever positions serve one strange man in the moment. they are at times libertarian, then authoritarian. puritan biker culture. totally incoherent.

@wjmaggos @gruber So I hear you, I've taken pride at being described as weird my whole life, but calling these folks weird is OK by me, because they hate it. It embodies everything they're against sort of grouping them in their mind with the people they don't like.

So if it's getting under their skin, keep at it I say!

@gruber I'm really glad "weird" is *finally* taking off because it's completely disarming.

It's an amazing opening to knock down the "we're just protecting [ whatever ]" facade, and point out that these things are actually just creepy obsessions that always somehow amount to either telling people how to live or scaring people.

@gruber Eloquent as always. Well, eloquent as usual. Well said!
@gruber it's also extremely American to want "to be left alone" which extends to "wherever I go I only want to see my ideals"
@gruber live and let live? Iraq, Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan, multiple coups in South America. I can’t think of a less American sentiment.
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it's weird how they always talk about freedom but they actually don't want that at all. they are weird.

@gruber “live and let live”…unless they’re Palestinians, in which case America can butt in, supply weapons to Israel, which are then used to bomb them.

Based on history, America’s sentiment is ‘Kill (Iraq etc) and let kill (Israel)”

@gruber Elon banning/disabling accounts for benign tweets using the "weird" discourse tells you it's effective and that they're scared.
@gruber Weird I is what it is.

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if we got back to MYOB about half of our problems right now would disappear

republicans are creepy

@gruber The weird attack works because people don't want just to live and let live, they want to live and be accepted.

Weird means you don't belong, which has been an unfortunate sentiment felt by many.

But tactically in the short term this may be effective as a reframing technique.

@gruber completely agree.

These weirdos act like it’s a national crisis when some eighth grader wants to be called Sam instead of Samantha, and it is absolutely not their business.

Like damn, leave people alone

@gruber I like that this so clearly articulates exactly what calling them “weird” is NOT: it’s not saying that being outside the norm is a bad thing. It’s saying that your special brand of nutty is merely amusing until you try to force it on others.
@gruber But at the same time, what's more American - perhaps, more human - than the urge to insert oneself into others' business? The neighborhood busybody who knows all the goings-on. Water cooler gossip. Reality TV. Even news programs have a "human interest" element.