doskelJul 31, 2024
i am currently sshed into my car
Show threaddoskelJul 31, 2024
it's all JavaScript. the car runs fucking JavaScript.
Show threaddoskelJul 31, 2024
also, it has powertop included by default. runs Linux 3 something on an armv7l processor of some sort. omw to run neofetchml.
Show threaddoskelJul 31, 2024
AHAHAHAH ALL THE SOURCE CODE IS COMMENTED.
Show threaddoskelAug 1, 2024
IT RUNS FUCKING WAYLAND
ON KERNEL 3.0
IN 2016
Show threaddoskelAug 1, 2024
i neofetched it
Show threadCirnado Funkson :fists: Aug 1, 2024
@doskel wait doskel
you should get gcc and make setup on there

just imagine the goofies possible with that
Show threaddoskelAug 1, 2024
@lda FEDI SERVER ON CAR
Show threadCirnado Funkson :fists:
@doskel YES
Aug 1, 2024 at 12:58amWeb
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doskelJul 31, 2024
i am currently sshed into my car
Show threaddoskelJul 31, 2024
it's all JavaScript. the car runs fucking JavaScript.
Show threaddoskelJul 31, 2024
also, it has powertop included by default. runs Linux 3 something on an armv7l processor of some sort. omw to run neofetchml.
Show threadJesse 🇫🇷 🇪🇺 Jul 31, 2024
@doskel@a.doskel.net what the fuck???? what do you mean it runs javascript??
Show threaddoskelJul 31, 2024
@jessew the _entire_ ui is javascript. all of it. i'm pulling a copy of the system now
Show threadJesse 🇫🇷 🇪🇺 Jul 31, 2024
@doskel@a.doskel.net put it on github 😭
Show threaddoskelJul 31, 2024
@jessew totally would but i think it's all still technically copyrighted
there's mzd-aio which i think has some examples? idk
if you want a copy i can give you one though
Show threaddoskelJul 31, 2024
AHAHAHAH ALL THE SOURCE CODE IS COMMENTED.
Show threaddoskelAug 1, 2024
IT RUNS FUCKING WAYLAND
ON KERNEL 3.0
IN 2016
Show threadJesse 🇫🇷 🇪🇺 Aug 1, 2024
@doskel@a.doskel.net ????? you're just making this shit up
Show threaddoskelAug 1, 2024
@jessew it uses fucking river 😭
Show threadJesse 🇫🇷 🇪🇺 Aug 1, 2024
@doskel@a.doskel.net wake up
Show threadSeirdyAug 1, 2024
@doskel @jessew wait that doesn’t seem right. Can you run a help or version flag on river? it’s way too recent a piece of software, and your car runs kernel 3.0
Show threadJesse 🇫🇷 🇪🇺 Aug 1, 2024
@Seirdy@pleroma.envs.net @doskel@a.doskel.net this fucking car is haunted
Show threaddoskelAug 1, 2024
@Seirdy @jessew yeah, i looked: no river. not even a binary! afaict it's a proprietary Wayland compositor from some embedded company, separate from the IVI developers.
Show threadJesse 🇫🇷 🇪🇺 Aug 1, 2024
@doskel@a.doskel.net @Seirdy@pleroma.envs.net kernel 3.0 released in 2011. when did your car release 😭
Show threaddoskelAug 1, 2024
@jessew @Seirdy it's like a 2015-ish. that said, old kernels and embedded go hand in hand, so whatever
my drone ran like 4. something in 2018
Show threadJesse 🇫🇷 🇪🇺 Aug 1, 2024
@doskel@a.doskel.net @Seirdy@pleroma.envs.net i wish i did not know the things i know from software engineering
Show threadJesse 🇫🇷 🇪🇺 Aug 1, 2024
@doskel@a.doskel.net @Seirdy@pleroma.envs.net on the bright side nobody not many people only a lot of people died from bad tech so the industry is probably fine
Show threaddoskelAug 1, 2024
@jessew @Seirdy it's fiiiine this doesn't control anything important it just plays music
and does the backup camera but whatever that's totally fine
Show threadJesse 🇫🇷 🇪🇺 Aug 1, 2024
@doskel@a.doskel.net @Seirdy@pleroma.envs.net foiled again

you mean to tell me they weren't stupid enough to wire this to the engine??
Show threaddoskelAug 1, 2024
@jessew @Seirdy truly disastrous
can't even pull car data into the linux system... truly the catastrophe of Big Safety
Show threadJesse 🇫🇷 🇪🇺 Aug 1, 2024
@doskel@a.doskel.net @Seirdy@pleroma.envs.net like if they make it bad they should at least make it REALLY bad, not just "your dashboard crashes while you drive and you cant open the doors" bad but "autistic teenagers are using Flipper Zeros to drive your car around town" bad
Show threaddoskelAug 1, 2024
@jessew @Seirdy jokes on them i don't have the trim with lane keep assist :3
Show threadJesse 🇫🇷 🇪🇺 Aug 1, 2024
@doskel@a.doskel.net @Seirdy@pleroma.envs.net i dont know what these things are and now i want it more
Show threadSeirdyAug 1, 2024
@doskel @jessew yeah neofetch/neowofetch software detection works for the common case, but on uncommon setups it’s buggy af.
Show threaddoskelAug 1, 2024
i neofetched it
Show threadCirnado Funkson :fists: Aug 1, 2024
@doskel wait doskel
you should get gcc and make setup on there

just imagine the goofies possible with that
Show threaddoskelAug 1, 2024
@lda FEDI SERVER ON CAR
Show threadCirnado Funkson :fists: Aug 1, 2024
@doskel YES
Show threadTeknikal_DomainAug 1, 2024

@doskel @lda COMPLETELY orthogonal, but now I wonder... roving APRS I-Gate.

Quick does that car have USB ports accessible-

Show threaddoskelAug 1, 2024
@tek_dmn @lda it actually does, and they're connected to the linux box! i thought the same thing lmfao
Show threadStephanie 🎀Aug 1, 2024
@lda @doskel boost this to honk horn
Show threadLuna LacteaAug 1, 2024
@doskel @lda fedi.ona.honda (real TLD) (no, Honda doesn't use it as far as I can tell) (I know it's a Mazda)
Show threadsoweli pi ilo seli panAug 1, 2024
@doskel wait a second. thats not https://isaacfreund.com/software/river/ is it
river

Show threaddoskelAug 1, 2024
@unnick i'm pretty sure it is lmfao
Show threadsoweli pi ilo seli panAug 1, 2024
@doskel no fuckig way what
theres software written in zig on cars?????????
Show threadTeknikal_DomainAug 1, 2024
@unnick @doskel It's not C, it's not COBOL, it's not Visual Basic 2016 for Workgroups, it's fine.
Show threadsugar🍬🍭​​Aug 1, 2024
@unnick @doskel@a.doskel.net the way neofetch recognizes river wm in wayland session when lsof or fuser doesn't exist is by checking whether a process containing river in its name is running

which may not necessarily be a window manager, or even a river for that matter, it could be a driver for instance (would make sense in context of a car, i feel like)
Show threaddoskelAug 1, 2024
@sugar @unnick you're exactly right! i ran ps aux | grep river and it was just some driver, so good guess too!
Show threaddoskelAug 1, 2024
THE INBUILT BROWSER USES DEFAULT BREEZE ICONS LMAO
Show threaddoskelAug 1, 2024
okay so it uses regular alsa as far as i can tell
Show threaddoskelAug 1, 2024
okay so the car just uses regular alsa, and integrates normally and everything. this is surprisingly not that cursed.
Show threaddoskelAug 1, 2024
this is way more normal than i though. the compositor and all that are fully proprietary which is kinda weird but the audio is just normal alsa
Show threadLunaphiedAug 1, 2024
@doskel yeah Wayland has a lot of IVI (in-vehicle entertainment) bits built up for it
Show threadWolf480plAug 1, 2024
@doskel is this the radio or some other part of the car?
Show threaddoskelAug 1, 2024
@wolf480pl general head unit thing
doesn't do much in the way of actual car stuff tho
Show threadWolf480plAug 1, 2024
@doskel was it hard to get shell? Also, which generation of Mazda is this?
Show threadWolf480plAug 1, 2024
@doskel (nvm about generation - 2016 so 3rd gen)
Show threaddoskelAug 1, 2024
@wolf480pl plug in a flash drive with some files on it, let it install some stuff, go into a menu, and hit the "start wifi ap" button. dead simple tbh.
Show threadWolf480plAug 1, 2024
@doskel nice!
Do you know if there are different variants of the infortainment system for those mazdas, or am I guaranteed to get one that's hackable if I buy a 3rd gen Mazda?
Show threaddoskelAug 1, 2024
@wolf480pl it's almost certainly going to work; afaik if the firmware version is supported, it's going to work, and most of the versions are supported.
Show threadJPAug 1, 2024
@doskel i wonder if the OS itself was a whitelabel/reference layer that they slapped some JS onto. seen that with firmwares in things like routers and set-top boxes
Show threaddoskelAug 1, 2024
@froztbyte im looking at it, and afaict Mazda did basically none of it! all the JS is from Johnson Communications, and they've developed it for a while apparently; the distro has a bunch of bits from other embedded vendors, so im honestly not sure...
Show threadnepiAug 1, 2024
@doskel embedded world (especially autos) moves slowwwww

It was probably reasonably up-to-date when they started putting it together, tbh.
Show threadIgnas KielaAug 1, 2024
@doskel@a.doskel.net wayland first got popular on embedded and automotive

because X sucks so incredibly much at it that it's either no windowing system at all or wayland in cars
Show threadSyphist Aug 1, 2024
@doskel@a.doskel.net hahaha, that's great. Although the fact that it's JavaScript is cursed.
Show threadAaronJul 31, 2024
@doskel Not just your car... that stuff has literally gone to space.

https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/18/23206110/james-webb-space-telescope-javascript-jwst-instrument-control
The James Webb Space Telescope runs JavaScript, apparently

The recently launched marvel of engineering, modern science, and international cooperation has been taking beautiful pictures of our universe with the help of JavaScript.

The Verge
Show threadStefan PrandlAug 1, 2024
@doskel this makes a lot of sense. Most modern OT systems are running nodejs on an arm processor to manage their field buses. We all live in hell, apparently.
Show threadcarlwheezerrAug 1, 2024
@doskel this is the beginning of my joker era. theoretically your car could be directly hooked into ChatGPT and ask it what it should do every time it sees a pedestrian. in 30 years i will be prompt engineering my car to yield to public transit
Show threadMiro (Micr0byte)Aug 1, 2024
@doskel how the hell does one even begin to do that,,,