Petition: Bitcoin is Stupid and Does Not Deserve an Emoji

https://lemm.ee/post/38424460

Petition: Bitcoin is Stupid and Does Not Deserve an Emoji - lemm.ee

35 crypto companies made a Change Dot Org petition called “Bitcoin Deserves an Emoji” [https://www.change.org/p/bitcoin-deserves-an-emoji] F that Sign this one instead: “Bitcoin is Stupid and Does Not Deserve an Emoji”: https://www.change.org/bitcoin-is-stupid [https://www.change.org/bitcoin-is-stupid]

Who gives an actual fuck?

Well.

Step one. Bitcoin gets emoji.
Step two. Young people and other folks with fragile minds think it's legit because it has an emoji.
Step three. Poor people lose their money.
Outcome: The rich get rich, the poor stay poor.

Alternatively:
Step one. Bitcoin gets emoji.
Step two. Young people and other folks with fragile minds think it's legit because it has an emoji.
Step three. Crypto currencies keep burning through resources as if it was a Brazilian rainforest.
Outcome: The few lucky ones will feel really stupid living in their bunkers after the collapse.

I don’t think emojis should be the place to have a socio-political discussion. Emojis should reflect how people popularly communicate. If Christianity gets to have a cross emoji (which is a torture device, let’s remember), then so should Bitcoin. And I don’t even like either!
Bitcoin emoji represents tortured GPX cards tooling in the mines

I don’t think emojis should be the place to have a socio-political discussion.

have some entirely non-political emojis:

🗳️: BALLOT BOX WITH BALLOT 🇹🇼: FLAG: TAIWAN 🇵🇸: FLAG: PALESTINIAN TERRITORIES 🗽: STATUE OF LIBERTY 🤡: FACE OF “NON-POLITICAL” PERSON

Good for you. That’s a red herring, but just to be clear: did you miss the part where I said that emojis should represent what people think or talk about? All those examples you put are exactly what I meant.

BACK to the fucking discussion: You’re proving my point that the emoji bitcoin should then be included. Because a large group of people talk about it, in pro- or against.

When does it just become free advertising though? Should McDonald’s get an arches emoji?
this isn’t debate club, come back later
addendum to what my co-admin said: don’t come back later, these posts are so fucking terrible I don’t want them in my database
If scientology had an emoji than the comparison would be apt.

Why?

Is there a case of the unicode comission blocking proposals of a scientology emoji?

🤯: me when ☦️, ☪️, ☯️, ☸️, ✝️, 🕉️, ✡️ all have emojis making each one legitimate.

They’re stupid internet pictures people aren’t going to make financial decisions off of them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion

They're all legitimate, doesn't make them factual.

Freedom of religion - Wikipedia

There is also an emoji for thieves. A cute one, even. Will young people start living that thing life because of the emoji?
How do you think the whole “be gay, do crimes” started? /s
What exactly is your definition of legitimate?
I don’t know if I’m reading this right because it seems so retarded? Make emojis open, why are they locked down to begin with? They’re KB-sized silly icons.

There is a wine emoji… There is a cigarette emoji…

People with fragile mind could think that it’s perfectly healthy to consume that stuff…

There is even a bomb emoji… People with fragile mind could…

Edit: Thanks for the dislikes. Negativity is way better than sharing arguments!!!111

yeah you’re annoying as fuck and we don’t need your posts

There’s people out there that don’t think emojis are as stupid as Bitcoin. Or maybe it’s the other way around. Either way, there’s some people out there and they’re wrong.
a change.org petition, for or against bitcoin, is the perfect manifestation of bitcoin: entirely pointless
Deine Plattform für Petitionen

Mehr als 500.000.000 Menschen setzen sich in ihrem Umfeld für Veränderungen ein. Mach mit!

Change.org

Easier to distinguish between people who want to establish a patriarchal white ethno-state, and people who just like ancient Greek sculpture

Nice.

Maybe a hot take, but I think emojis are stupid, so maybe bitcoin deserves one after all?

Emojis are not stupid when used well. They help add more context to a text.

If people use emojis stupidly, chances are they’ll use “the alphabet” stupidly as well if there were no emojis. As in “lol like etf amirite anyway bei felicia!”

emojis are stupid

Really curious on what grounds, like is the entire idea of a pictogram stupid?

I'm 48 years old, so I didn't grow up with them. I do think some of them have their place though, but there's quite a lot of novelty emojis. So I guess that I'm an old guy who only likes the old ascii emoticons.
😡🤜☁️
🫵
𓆯𓇋𓂋𓎼𓇋𓈖 𓉔𓇋𓅂𓂋𓅱𓎼𓃭𓇌𓊪𓉔𓇋𓎢𓋴 vs 𐤊𐤄𐤃 𐤐𐤄𐤍𐤎𐤍
“uncle sam…”

This may be the best usage of emojis ever. I think we should probably shit down emojis as a whole, they’ll never get better than this comment.

Oh, shoot. I mean

☝️🤯👏🎉

IMO the best use of emojis was when Chinese citizens used them to share info about covid while the govt was actively censoring it (that article calls them emoticons for some reason though)
Skirting Chinese censorship with emoticons and telegraph codes

In China, dissident voices are bypassing state censorship and information controls by using old-school telegraph codes and emoticons to encode articles.

Brookings

🖔

i’m fifty, and you’re full of it.

We already have 🅱️
ay 🅱️🅱️, wan sum fuk?
we also have 💩
crime coin should be banned since its only use case is illegal activity
Ban cash then! BTC isnt a holy grail but a deregulated international currency isnt a bad idea
boy was that a quick exit
You can’t ban the roads because smugglers use them

we can ban the crime coin because literally the coiners themselves admit it’s crime coin and that that’s a problem for crime coin

also roads are useful for non-criming and crime coin isn’t

Bitcoin's Ransomware Problem Won't Go Away

By the end of 2019, at least $128 million in bitcoin had been paid to ransomware hackers. That's not good optics for a payment system.

CoinDesk

Yes, I agree there is a stigma around bitcoin because of the amount of scams and ransomware that is around them but I don’t want to delegitimize decentralized currency.

Currently the options are really bad because of the amount of resources they consume and their use as an investment option. I really wish there could be an option to have money outside of government control.

I agree decentralized currency is great.

All I need is some quarters and I can start my laundry without waiting half an hour for the centralized blockchain ledger’s global state to acknowledge the transaction.

That’s true, cash can be a more private alternative to electronic transactions but I also want an electronic counterpart, something with private and public keys. I am not knowledgeable enough on currencies and transactions to know how the system would work
Happily there are plenty of good examples of how such a system would work in practise… Web3 is Going Just Great or Attack of the 50 Foot Blockchain perhaps.
Web3 is Going Just Great

A timeline recording only some of the many disasters happening in crypto, decentralized finance, NFTs, and other blockchain-based projects.

Blockchain will never be a good system of private transactions as it takes too many resources to run it and you have to fork it all of the time because the chains get too heavy. That much I know and agree with.

I want an alternative and currently after the grift made because of crypto, no one wants to innovate in a private and decentralized currency. In truth, I haven’t searched that much for an alternative.

The problem isn’t just the nature of blockchains, the problem is the uses to which such systems will be put. The explosion in ransomware fuelled by bitcoin et al isn’t something that can be replicated with physical cash at the same scale, for example (consider why you want electronic cash in the first place). Similarly, the need to “be your own bank” will always expose you to a greater risk of fraud and theft and loss, because being a bank is harder than people seem to think.

The technology involved is (almost) irrelevant.

I wanted this “electronic cash” to make it easier to carry cash without ending with lots of coins in my wallet. The point of being your own bank seems dangerous and too convoluted to make it more convenient.

I guess I will keep trying to use cash whenever I can and call it a day.

So I realise that this is very euro-centric and the majority of people on earth don’t get this sort of convenience, but… fast and easy interbank transfers and contactless debit and credit card payments just do all the stuff that most people want out of electronic cash, and transaction logs are a small price to pay for a substantial reduction in risk.
I use those services currently but I would prefer not to have logs of what I do with my money in someone’s computer

You realise that all electronic currencies will necessarily involve transaction logs stored in someone else’s computer? Even Zcash and monero, which have clever anonymous transactions, allow selective disclosure of the details of those transactions if you ever find yourself at the wrong end of a criminal investigation or tax audit. Moreover, their anonymity guarantees are not perfect (the IRS has certainly paid big bucks to chainalysis for de-anonymisation, for what that’s worth).

Unless someone magically invents a software artefact that can’t be duplicated (don’t hold your breath, I’m serious about the magic) there’s no escape from this fundamental requirement.

Using that logic, the US government has enough computing power to decrypt your internet traffic even if you use a VPN. I only want more protection, not complete anonymity.

And for what it’s worth, I think that the protection an internet service can provide is only “trust that we are doing it right”, every data leak that is happening is proof of this.

the US government has enough computing power to decrypt your internet traffic even if you use a VPN

No. Not even slightly.

I see you are completely unfamiliar with any of the issues here. I appreciate they are complex, but I don’t have the time or patience to educate you right now, even assuming you’re willing to learn.

Can you leave me with some reading material regarding the problems of trying to get privacy in electronic currency?

Something like the de-anonymisation of monero, I think it’s interesting and will try to read more about it.

are you dim? you literally replied “hey can you spend some time to give me things for free” to someone who literally explicitly made it clear that they don’t have the time

it sounds like you already have some idea of what you want to know about, maybe you should act on that curiousity! by, idunno, going to find the information? it’s not like this stuff hasn’t been well-covered spanning the space of a decade, or as though there aren’t literally companies that do this as their whole thing. nah, gonna have to be greenfields research, hard shit.

Sorry if the message came out entitled to the research. As rook sent some news sites about crypto, I thought some research papers about the deanonymizing monero would be readily available.