StrypeyJul 31, 2024

A good reason for courts to find that training MOLE(1) on published works is copyright violation, but also a reason they probably won't;

"Given the unimaginable reams of copyrighted works that have presumably already been incorporated into systems like GPT-4 and Claude, you don’t even need to do the math. AI companies, even gigantic ones, could be bankrupted by the damages they owe to—well, all of us."

#MattPrewitt, 2024

https://www.radicalxchange.org/media/blog/the-models-are-yours-the-publics-leverage-in-ai/

(1) Machine Only Learning Emulators

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Show threadStrypeyJul 31, 2024

"...suppose that courts find that the AI companies have violated authors’ rights."

#MattPrewitt, 2024

https://www.radicalxchange.org/media/blog/the-models-are-yours-the-publics-leverage-in-ai/

Then imagine regulators did the same thing they did to Napster and Grokster and so many other scrappy startups during the CopyWars of the late 90s/ early 2000s; nuke them from orbit to be sure. In this case, by nationalising the companies without compensation, and placing them under the governance of their workers, customers, or both.

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Show threadStrypeyJul 31, 2024

In other words;

"Content creators, including ordinary people producing copyrightable digital footprints (students, employees, social media users, etc.), could have huge leverage over the future of the technology. If they organize and bargain collectively (instead of getting “picked off” by individual agreements) they will hold the strings to datasets that are necessary ingredients to the world’s most powerful AIs."

#MattPrewitt, 2024

https://www.radicalxchange.org/media/blog/the-models-are-yours-the-publics-leverage-in-ai/

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You might think confiscating an entire corporation seems like extreme government overreach. But here's a thought experiment.

Imagine it was discovered that the vast majority of Nike's share value and profits had been created by people who weren't paid for their work, and were actively prevented from leaving. In other words, by slaves.

Would it be enough to slap its owners on the wrist with fines for violating employment law? Or would the company be confiscated, to prevent a repeat?

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Show threadStrypeyJul 31, 2024

The share value of any corporate DataFarmer (as well as their "AI") was extracted from the people creating and using their online platforms. The vast majority of
whom weren't paid for their work, and were actively prevented from leaving. By a lack of designed-in interoperability, and active blocking of any attempt at adversarial interoperation.

In other words, by digital slaves.

As in the hypothetical above, would it be unreasonable to confiscate the company to prevent a repeat?

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Show threadStrypeyJul 31, 2024

"...lawyers, academics, and technologists need to come together to debate and draft the legal resettlement we need. What are the deep principles and common values that we want intellectual property law to protect? Have we, perhaps, been underestimating the diffuse social contributions to 'individual' intellectual work for some time; and can we devise a sensible way for the law to now correct this error?"

#MattPrewitt, 2024

https://www.radicalxchange.org/media/blog/the-models-are-yours-the-publics-leverage-in-ai/

100%. Great essay.

#copyright #AI

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Show threadJoshua LeungJul 31, 2024
@strypey
Dangerous slippery slope there. The CCP basically did that to anyone they didn't like... we all know how badly that has gone.
Show threadStrypeyJul 31, 2024

@aligorith
> Dangerous slippery slope there. The CCP basically did that to anyone they didn't like

So is your argument that anything the CCP does is off-limits? Even if we can construct a strong argument for doing it, based on our own completely different principles of governance and law?

Other things the CCP does;

* Issue passports and driver licenses

* Enforce road rules

* Register companies

* Collect taxes

Is doing all of these things a slippery slope too?

Show threadJoshua LeungJul 31, 2024

@strypey
Those are things standard governments do too, so no, those don't apply / are not in the same category.

What I am saying is that if there's stuff that only CCP and/or other bad regimes (e.g. Soviets) have done in the past, we should be very wary of it. Not complete ban, but very very high threshold + lots of safeguards needed, as we have some good examples how it goes wrong.

Show threadStrypeyAug 2, 2024

@aligorith
> Not complete ban, but very very high threshold + lots of safeguards needed, as we have some good examples how it goes wrong

Fair point, totally agree.