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Church of Jeff
๐๐๐๐@jeffowski Truly an unfathomable mystery.
CyAnd several of the uncivilized nations of primitive savages, as well!
Unxif@jeffowski and that the first one was established in the 19th century. Truly complex.
TrondC@jeffowski 73 of the world's 193 countries have universal health care, which gives about 70% of the world's population access to UHC. There is only 1 - one - so-called "developed nation" that does not have UHC.
Michal Bryxรญ ๐ฑ@trondc @jeffowski Nice. I was wondering what do the numbers in the original toot represent. Thanks for expanding.
@@jeffowski I might argue, a nation can't be considered developed if it doesn't have universal health care, such that the message should read "all 32 of the world's 32 developed nations have made it work, by tautology."
Ali@jeffowski am I missing something? isn't it supposed to be exactly like that considering the role of US as a nation?
Tim BondyWhile I fully support creating a Universal Health Care (UHC) system in the US, a simple definition of UHC would be quite helpful. Plus, a more in-depth description of what it might look like would also be helpful.
I currently am under a sort of UHC system with the VA and Tricare. The system works for me, but there are some problems with it.
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@jeffowski Conservatives break it at every opportunity
Andreas K@jeffowski
Well, to be honest, that universal in many developed nations. E.g. in Austria it's attached to all kind of things, e.g. employment, benefits, but in theory (although it's rather hard), you can be privately insured. Even harder, but even that is possible, to be not insured at all.
So in effect, healthcare (and social security, all kinds of benefits) are universal. There are literally very few forms of income without โpayroll taxesโ attached, rent income mostly.
@jeffowski Ireland has a dual system, a state run system for people earning up to a threshold, and everybody above needs to insure themselves, sigh.
Yet again, the end product is similar, between the state system and the mandate, you get a mostly universal system.
And yes, all these systems are not without faults.
But a hospital visit is generally not a reason for a bankruptcy, at least not via a hospital bill as such.
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