There is a weirdly racist trend where people blame hypothetical minorities when systems fail because management cuts corners. We saw it with the Boeing door collapse and now with the Crowdstrike crash.
There is no mythical "DEI engineer" doing sloppy work at these companies.
It's down to leadership cutting corners to make a buck. A software update causing a crash that takes down all of your customers is due to inadequate testing. It's not because some anonymous minority wrote the code.
@milennialzero @carnage4life DevOps, Agile or Waterfall, testing *always* gets cut to the bone because management push for earlier and earlier delivery, they insist on ludicrous “happy day” estimation and they perceive testing time as “soft”- as in “if you code it right first time you don’t need all that testing”.
Ridiculous, yes, but I’ve experienced it so many times in 30+ years…
@milennialzero @carnage4life also at the client side, automated updates should be blocked or delayed so that non production env receive them first and can be tested.
I don't know the product but if it didn't allow for such a scenario, I wouldn't used it in a critical env.
@anne_twain @carnage4life I think the general idea they're usually getting at is that in the good old days, people were judged on *merit* and *results*, but now there are all these other political considerations and it leads to substandard hiring.
But the only way someone could believe that is if they completely ignore all of the old-boy-network, overtly bigoted and "I like the cut of your jib" considerations that skewed hiring 50 or 100 years ago (and that still operate today, just with less overt social sanction). One could maybe argue that the answer isn't DEI as currently practiced, that there is some better way--but this isn't how the "DEI engineer" complaint is framed.
@carnage4life
I think most everyone knows this, except for the people in rural America whose only "news" source is Facebook, which is where they "learn" that DEI is corrupting every business and institution.
A lot of the people spreading that nonsense know it's false too, but they are happy to spread it because they're white supremacists
@jrefior @carnage4life I don't agree. I saw a man that I thought was very well-educated, has a master's and travels internationally to give talks at conference. He was spouting that he thinks DEI caused the Crowdstrike crash.
racism is not just a poor uneducated rural thing
@theelectricteal @jrefior @carnage4life
I agree with @theelectricteal . The belief that certain non-White ethnicities are intrinsically "less than" is deeply ingrained and pervasive. That I didn't get accepted to college because my excellent school grades warranted it, but that I was given a pass because I'm Black. That my having a well paying job wasn't because I worked hard to get there, but because it ticked off a, "have to hire a Black person," box.
I've had people say to my face that whatever I accomplish is an empty label given only because I'm Black, dismissing that whatever I accomplish is real, and due to my work and effort.
My experiences have been with educated people, living in large, racially diverse cities. Racism truly is not just a poor, uneducated, rural thing.
@Nmyownworld @theelectricteal
I suppose I should have written my post better, because I agree with both of you.
Part of my point was that the well-educated person spouting the DEI nonsense is more likely to be the determined white supremacist who knows it's false. This is from my own life experience. I grew up in a rural town and my mom still lives there. Some of the people there believe the false "news" they get on Facebook, in part because nothing they see contradicts it.
@david1 @carnage4life
Too many people forget this.
It's as though despite all the money given to CEOs for their leadership, they don't actually understand leadership.
It's possible that a lot of the comments are made by bots and troll farms. It's predictable that there is an increase in a US election year.
@carnage4life
This is a manifestation of what I like to call "one track mindlessness" - the tendency of simpletons to see everything that ever happens in terms of whatever their pet issue is.
Someone obsessively and brainlessly anti-DEI will attribute everything bad that ever happens to DEI, without any evidence or inkling of an indication that there's any relationship there at all, let alone a casual one.
@carnage4life it's funny because nobody (besides us) mentioned the fact that the one thing in common with CrowdStrike and McAfee bringing down the 'net is the CEO was the same.
But sure, "diversity" is the problem 🥲
@dutch_connection_uk @carnage4life
I guess I'm not up to date with USA racist jargon. Can somebody explain what "DEI" stands for?
@javierg @carnage4life Diversity, Equality, and Inclusion. Companies would have special hiring events for disabled people and such, what people miss is that you still have to get through a tough interview, it's about getting a resume past the automated garbage can, not about bypassing merit entirely.
But now the right wing uses the term to imply someone was hired because of minority status, rather than merit, and they do that for elected officials as well, including in majority black districts.
@carnage4life To be fair; It _was_ likely caused by a person lifted to a position due to their gender, while being unqualified for it, prioritizing things unrelated to the task over doing a technically sound job:
In all likelihood some (group) of (probably white) guy people populating (upper) management, having gotten there through connections, generational wealth, and simple unfounded over-confidence, prioritizing profit over safety, care, and proper engineering...
But conceptually...
@carnage4life OMG, please tell me that they're not ... oh, nope, they are.
I am so absolutely done with these bigots.
@carnage4life And 99% of the time it's a white dude in the C suite who made the calls to:
1. Reduce staff numbers
2. Reduce code reviews (whether by peers or managers)
3. Reduce QA standards
4. Push hotfixes to production
And, in this particular case, wasn't it a C-suite honky who sold a whole bunch of shares the night before the shit hit the proverbial?
@carnage4life agreed, as someone who follows aviation, it's kind of insane how you see those kinds of DEI comments on EVERY incident. Whether it's an airline pilot or ATC, it's always DEI.
Remember when Boeing Max-9s were self-crashing? Boeing's CEO was victim-blaming non-American pilots for being inferior.
Sexism is frequently part if it, regardless of race when there's a female pilot, someone's mentioning DEI. How to say you're sexist without saying you're sexist, 101.
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