Musk says he'll spend about $180 million to elect Trump.

They are the nation's two most powerful enemies of democracy (though Musk has some competition for second place) and, by extension, freedom of expression.

Everyone who buys a Tesla is supporting them.

Everyone who uses the deadbird site -- notably the journalists, who all know what they're doing -- is supporting them.

Don't pretend otherwise.

@dangillmor When you are pervertedly rich, you can buy yourself an American President.

That's the PEAK of capitalism, Folks! Congrats ... ;-)

@AndyGER @dangillmor The USA is the peak of capitalism, and money rules everything. That and a useless, corrupted torso of a legal system are why it is where it is now.

@davidpnice @dangillmor I know.

It would be absolutely revolutionary if Americans found a THIRD huge party that works in favour of the people of America who build the base of the Country: Labour workers.

Conquer the system by not playing by their rules. Do something very nasty ... ;-)

@AndyGER @davidpnice @dangillmor alas, the self-perceived interests of labor in the USA are extremely disparate. Claiming to represent "the workers" means very little, because there are workers who are pro-Trump and workers who are pro-UBI, workers for and against abortion, workers for more taxes on the rich and workers against it, workers who are pro-union and workers who are anti-union. Find a political position, and there are workers on every side of it.

@PaulDavisTheFirst @davidpnice @dangillmor What choise does an American have?

In Germany for instance the social-democratic party SPD was the party for labour workers with historic reason. Then we have/had the left called Die Linke who work also in favour of the common man. We have the CDU/CSU who claim to represent the Middle - which is untrue for decades. And we have a green party as well. There is a political spectrum to choose from.

It's not one way OR the other ...

@AndyGER @davidpnice @dangillmor while I agree that we have very little choice when it comes to *parties* in the USA, the Democrats (at least) do represent quite a range of political ideology (even though the Democrat you get to vote for may not).

My point was really that the idea of "a workers' party" doesn't make much sense in the USA, where a sense of "class consciousness" is rather weak and not very definitional.

@PaulDavisTheFirst @AndyGER @dangillmor Thanks, both, for this dialogue. We have arguments over choice in the UK which often touch on this. But the size of the nation makes a big difference. Our class system is still so entrenched.
@davidpnice @AndyGER @dangillmor I grew up in the UK (left 35 years ago) which continues to shape a lot of my thinking about this sort of thing, no doubt.