breakfastmtnJul 15, 2024

JD Vance opposes military aid, NATO membership for Ukraine. He's now Trump's VP pick

https://lemmy.ca/post/25111191

JD Vance opposes military aid, NATO membership for Ukraine. He's now Trump's VP pick - Lemmy.ca

Vance is one of Trump’s most vocal supporters and an outspoken critic of U.S. aid to Ukraine. . . . Vance has said that it would be “completely irresponsible” for Ukraine to join NATO. He has also argued for the U.S. to focus solely on preventing Chinese expansion, even if that means sacrificing sovereign Ukrainian lands to Russia. “Any peace settlement is going to require some significant territorial concessions from Ukraine, and you’re gonna have a peace deal, because that’s the only way out of the conflict,” Vance said in February. MBFC [https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/kyiv-independent-bias/] Archive [https://archive.is/rJU2P]

Show threadanticolonialistJul 16, 2024
NATO should have been dissolved with the Warsaw Pact. Its nothing more that the European arm of US imperialism
Show threadBigFigJul 16, 2024
Go away
Show threadanticolonialistJul 16, 2024
I’m not going anywhere. I will call out US imperialism and colonialism every chance that I get and I will stand against anybody defending that imperialism.
Show threadxorJul 16, 2024

Russia invades its neighbour, unprovoked, explicitly to seize their agreed sovereign territory

“Why would America do this?”

Show threadanticolonialistJul 16, 2024

unprovoked

Hea, because Ukraine bombing The Donbos and killing native Russians for 8 years prior never happened

Show threadxorJul 16, 2024

I mean, that’s straight up not true lol

Your claim is that Ukraine - while not at war - was bombing itself? And that would be a legitimate casus belli for Russia to invade them, and then seize that territory for themselves?

That’s a batshit insane take

Show threadanticolonialistJul 16, 2024
You know the Internet is free
In Ukraine's Donbas, ten years of war and Russification

On April 7, 2014, a coup by pro-Russian militants in the city of Donetsk in eastern Ukraine was the spark that ignited the Donbas war. In the heart of this industrial region, populated at the time by six million mostly Russian-speaking inhabitants, the armed confrontation began between an expansionist Russia and a Ukraine aspiring to consolidate its independence. The Donbas has become a desolate landscape after ten years of war, and Russification has been brutally imposed.

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Show threadxor

Oh silly me, your argument is even worse than I thought!

So the “bombing the Donbas” you’re talking about is the previous time Russia declared an unprovoked war against them!

“Russia had to invade, because last time they invaded, the Ukrainians fought back. Those bastards!”

Jul 16, 2024 at 4:07pmWeb
Show threadanticolonialistJul 16, 2024
Your claim was Ukraine wouldn’t be bombing Ukraine, and you were wrong, they had been.
Show threadxorJul 16, 2024
That doesn’t exactly count when it’s occupied territory lmao