breakfastmtnJul 15, 2024

JD Vance opposes military aid, NATO membership for Ukraine. He's now Trump's VP pick

https://lemmy.ca/post/25111191

JD Vance opposes military aid, NATO membership for Ukraine. He's now Trump's VP pick - Lemmy.ca

Vance is one of Trump’s most vocal supporters and an outspoken critic of U.S. aid to Ukraine. . . . Vance has said that it would be “completely irresponsible” for Ukraine to join NATO. He has also argued for the U.S. to focus solely on preventing Chinese expansion, even if that means sacrificing sovereign Ukrainian lands to Russia. “Any peace settlement is going to require some significant territorial concessions from Ukraine, and you’re gonna have a peace deal, because that’s the only way out of the conflict,” Vance said in February. MBFC [https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/kyiv-independent-bias/] Archive [https://archive.is/rJU2P]

Show threadanticolonialistJul 16, 2024
NATO should have been dissolved with the Warsaw Pact. Its nothing more that the European arm of US imperialism
Show threadBigFig
Go away
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Show threadanticolonialistJul 16, 2024
I’m not going anywhere. I will call out US imperialism and colonialism every chance that I get and I will stand against anybody defending that imperialism.
Show threadJimSamtankoJul 16, 2024

Though your misinformation campaign is off to a VERY good start, I’m afraid that it bodes badly for anyone taking you seriously enough to consider anything you say as resembling a point, let alone a good one.

My factor was when you tried to say that Pelosi and Schiff demanded that Biden step down, and when I proved you wrong with direct quotes-

You ran away.

Show threadanticolonialistJul 16, 2024
I didnt think I ever said anything about Schiff or Pelosi, and after going over my history I was right. If you have not caught on I could not care less what someone else thinks of me.
Show threadJimSamtankoJul 16, 2024

Ahhhh… right. That wasn’t you. I get you all confused. Same message, same…. Anyway-

It was you though, that admitted you were here to disrupt an election. Haven’t forgotten that part.

And it’s just as stupid.

Show threadanticolonialistJul 16, 2024
The disrupting election bullshit is your terminology. I’m simply telling people they don’t have to vote for a fascist. They should feel entitled to vote who they want to see in government. They should not feel trapped into a duopoly that does not represent their interests
Show threadJimSamtankoJul 16, 2024

Oh come on now… don’t try and paint over it. What you said was:

I actively encourage anyone to withhold a vote from Trump or Biden

Actively encourage.

You are trying to get people not to vote.

THAT IS DISRUPTING AN ELECTION.

Show threadanticolonialistJul 16, 2024
No one should vote for biden. If Biden had repeated everything he’s already done throughout his career, but as a Republican, liberals would hate everything he’s done. And rightfully so. But he’s given a pass because of that D.
Show threadJimSamtankoJul 16, 2024
That’s blatantly untrue.
Show threadxorJul 16, 2024

Russia invades its neighbour, unprovoked, explicitly to seize their agreed sovereign territory

“Why would America do this?”

Show threadanticolonialistJul 16, 2024

unprovoked

Hea, because Ukraine bombing The Donbos and killing native Russians for 8 years prior never happened

Show threadxorJul 16, 2024

I mean, that’s straight up not true lol

Your claim is that Ukraine - while not at war - was bombing itself? And that would be a legitimate casus belli for Russia to invade them, and then seize that territory for themselves?

That’s a batshit insane take

Show threadanticolonialistJul 16, 2024
You know the Internet is free
In Ukraine's Donbas, ten years of war and Russification

On April 7, 2014, a coup by pro-Russian militants in the city of Donetsk in eastern Ukraine was the spark that ignited the Donbas war. In the heart of this industrial region, populated at the time by six million mostly Russian-speaking inhabitants, the armed confrontation began between an expansionist Russia and a Ukraine aspiring to consolidate its independence. The Donbas has become a desolate landscape after ten years of war, and Russification has been brutally imposed.

FRANCE 24
Show threadxorJul 16, 2024

Oh silly me, your argument is even worse than I thought!

So the “bombing the Donbas” you’re talking about is the previous time Russia declared an unprovoked war against them!

“Russia had to invade, because last time they invaded, the Ukrainians fought back. Those bastards!”

Show threadanticolonialistJul 16, 2024
Your claim was Ukraine wouldn’t be bombing Ukraine, and you were wrong, they had been.
Show threadxorJul 16, 2024
That doesn’t exactly count when it’s occupied territory lmao
Show threadjordanlundJul 17, 2024

So tired of your repeated misinfornation and outright propaganda. You’re done here.

crisisgroup.org/…/conflict-ukraines-donbas-visual…

Conflict in Ukraine’s Donbas: A Visual Explainer | Crisis Group

Show threadnova_ad_vitumJul 16, 2024

I will call out US imperialism

But not Russia’s lol. You will just continue to screech nonsense .