BonesOfTheMoonHe will weep.
solsangraali don’t know what’s more pathetic: a) that a grown ass man still makes /c/iamverybadass threats on the internet; or b) that there are grown ass men who actually think he’s tough
tacosanonymousBold of you to assume that he or his fans are grown.
I don’t understand why some people get so bent out of shape over the term cisgender. Latin prefixes are even more common in English than abbreviations like AMAB.
It’s just transphobia. If you don’t have cis (wo)men and trans (wo)men, then you just have (wo)men and trans (wo)men, which implies that trans (wo)men are not (wo)men.
Got it. I didn’t understand because they make it seem like it’s an insult to be called cisgender. They’re actually just upset that it removes an avenue of bigotry.
Fucking gross.
They think it’s an insult as they use trans as one.
irreticentI live in a conservative area and when I’m at the bar I sometimes hear people using the term “liberal” as a slur. I kinda makes me laugh, but also makes me a bit sad.
RidderSportI tend to think that conservative is actually a description for limited cognitive means. Progress in any form or shape needs liberal thinking as you wouldn’t find any progressing features by thinking inside the box. Ergo conservatism is inherently the bane of progress. Labeling yourself, proudly even, is just a tell-tale sign that you’re either cognitively limited or afraid of progress.
The weird part though is that conservatives lacked the drive to counter the idea that reactionary or regressive thinking people (i.e mostly fanatics or fascists,monarchists ) may be called conservative. They are not by the definition of the word itself
As someone who used to think it was an offensive term, it’s likely ignorance and because it’s often used in a deragatory and dehumanizing way on the internet.
At first I didn’t know what cisgendered or cis meant, but I definitely saw it used to describe a group of people non-cis folks didn’t like very much. Of course I eventually learned, but still had a bit of a distaste due to the initial impression.
Also, I always saw “cishet” as a cheeky way of saying “cis shit” because it was also often used negatively in the places I originally came across the term. Once someone explained it in a comment section I finally understood it wasn’t hateful terminology but instead descriptive.
You can’t stop someone from being negative but at least knowing what the words are meant to mean can help identify a bad person rather than bad word.
Bigots often have a problem with being accurately described because gaslighting is part of the strategy. Useful ignorants provide cover.
Look, I’ve never been anti-gay or anti-trans, but this kind of attitude isn’t winning over the people who are in the middle.
I’m talking about generalizing and stereotyping type statements that, even if you aren’t homo/transphobic, feel like they’re targeted at you. When someone says, to give a hyperbolic example, “cisgendered white men are bigots”, they are not actually referring to all cis white men. But if you’re cis and white, you now know they assume you’re not a good person by default.
Tribalism is never the way.
Interesting. I didn’t have that experience myself, but I’ve definitely seen those types of comments. I absolutely understand how that could leave a bad impression. I’ll be more mindful of educational opportunities when having discussions about it in the future. Exposure and understanding are the enemies of bigotry.
Thanks for the insight!
At first I didn’t know what cisgendered or cis meant, but I definitely saw it used to describe a group of people non-cis folks didn’t like very much. Of course I eventually learned, but still had a bit of a distaste due to the initial impression.
How long was this “eventually”? I feel like it should be a couple minutes to search and land on the Wikipedia page.
Hmm maybe longer that it should have been, but do you really expect everyone to search for something instead of inferring the meaning based on context?
Yes? I often look up words I don’t know what they mean.
I’m gonna be real with you. I do the same shit.
We aren’t normal, and idk why you expect that at this point.
We aren’t normal in that respect
Given I got 5 down votes and no upvotes on the previous comment, you might be right.
Where were you seeing this online? (How much can I blame cursed social media algorithms feeding you bullshit?)
Reddit what where I came across that the most. I don’t use much social media so my exposure is relatively small.
Interesting. I don’t use social media much either (hence why it’s taken me days to see and respond here lol) but I’ve just never seen it. Not that I don’t believe you. Shit happens
The reasoning is simple: it’s just straight up transphobia. The term “cis” is just a neutral descriptor to pair with “trans” with no implication of being right or wrong. They’re mad at the existence of a term for the majority that doesn’t imply an insult to the minority.
Thanks. Another commenter pointed that out. They’re not really taking offense to the term so much as objecting to the concept of genders differing from biological sex. It’s awful.
There’s no reason to challenge the term otherwise. Cis is Latin for “on this side of” and trans is “across, beyond, or on the other side.” There’s really nothing objectionable about either prefix.
rustyfishBotox in the brain. Not even once.
It wasn’t Botox tho, right?
Like the dude who’s all about “personal responsibility” couldn’t man up and make it thru benzo detox got put in a coma to avoid it in a eastern European hospital because no one else would risk it
Then they couldn’t bring him out of the coma and he got brain damage.
But did he really get Botox in the brain to intentionally cause the coma?
Like, that just sounds even more insane…
A coma to avoid benzo detox?
I mean, I guess that’s one way to skip it.
I’d personally just let the docs provide me stuff to deal with the symptoms along the way, it’s not like it’s going to be any quicker
Yeah. That’s why western doctors wouldn’t do it
The detox isn’t even that bad, and he ended up with brain damage.
One of the most common side effects of brain damage is poor emotional regulation and responding to confusion with belligerence.
At one point, this asshole was just a psychology professor with right-wing political beliefs that rarely came up. The change happened before the coma, but he wasn’t threatening to fight people on Twitter.
The full story is much…much more crazy.
Jordy In a coma.
His Russian son in law, in 2 days, gets him a visa to Russia.
In a coma, they transport jordy to Russia.
In Russia, jordy undergoes a still unknown ‘treatment’.
Jordy later awakens, confused, because Russian.
Jordy joins the dark side.
This is fact.
(Will find the news article (from Canada’s very right wing paper))
JimboOkay, is queer better?
JP’s pronouns are twat / cunt, as in ‘that twat JP has been saying bullshit on the internet again’ or ‘I hope that cunt JP has shut his big mouth’
breadsmasherOh I didnt realise Jordan Peterson had come out as trans! 🏳️⚧️
Hmm he still uses he/him so it’s beyond me but maybe he’s just on another level of transatude that we haven’t unlocked yet
The many layers of TRANSCEPTION!
🏳️⚧️ 🏳️⚧️ 🏳️⚧️
samus12345Perhaps he’s a man in a woman’s body in a man’s body.
Instead of a skeleton inside him it’s just an entire second person. He’s a Russian nesting person.
DOOT DOOT JORDAN YOUR SKELETON WANTS OUT
He’s a non-binary boymoder. Lots of “traditionalist” friends and family, you see, so he’s taking his time to test the waters and hasn’t even changed pronouns yet. Please be patient with him 🙏
Who the fuck knows. His story arc still has some life in it.
Oh god it’s JP I didn’t even notice 🤦♂️
Look a lot of us wish we weren’t cis but them’s the breaks
Mr big brain resorting to threats of violence.
DasnapPoor snowflake can’t handle three little letters :(
Bitch this whole thing started because _your side _ couldn’t handle him using three letters
Todd BonzalezWith all due respect (none), what the hell are you talking about?
Lad seems like a Peterphile.
wizardbeardNot in any way agreeing with the take, but I’d imagine they mean MtF vs Female and FtM vs Male.
Those are normal terms used by the trans community…
I imagine they’re referring to Peterson misgendering someone using him/her, perhaps the Elliot Page debacle. A stupid and unrelated comment, to be sure.
I think people were just aware that he made inappropriate comments about Elliot’s breasts, called him a sinner, and called his physician a criminal, before absolutely losing his shit and having a very public meltdown about getting his tweets removed for being harassing and derogatory.
The only bitch in here is the person trying and failing to defend Jordan Peterson. I just can’t believe I actually saw one of his ten fans in the wild. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is one of his alts.
What thing?
Him coming to prominence and speaking up about the rediculesness of modern leftist politics
ObliviousEnlightenmentBe specific so you can be properly owned
He gained traction by openly fighting against forced speech in the form of ‘personal pronouns’. He used ‘he’ to adress a male-to-‘female’ trans person and people lost their minds, which is quite funny now that you all make fun about “three letters”.
One is actually backed by every single major medical and psychological institution in the country and has been consistently studied by the medical field for a century, the other is people upset by a word that isnt even derogatory
Imagine needing to other someone so badly that you have a tantrum because someone created a name for the “default” category. Peterson views trans people as so subhuman he doesn’t even want there to be a word for non-trans people.
andrew_bidlawDIOGENES, holding a chicken he plucked: Here is Peterson’s man.
Someone is clearly uncomfortable in their body.
I’m of two minds:
It literally means “not trans” my dude. Do you get offended when people call you human!