sabreW4K3Tesla Cybertruck gets vandalized by climate activists
over_cloxWhy bother? The climate is gonna make them rust all by itself eventually, probably sooner than later going by the recent reports…
The point is attention and a false sense of accomplishment.
inb4_FoundTheVeganThe Cybertruck weighs almost three tons, so its enormous weight means it consumes an absurdly high amount of energy. Senseless waste that we as a society cannot afford. Add to that the sharp-edged construction: a safety disaster. The truck perfectly illustrates where the anti-social policies of the last few decades have led us: a few rich people drive well-armored into the disaster – and take everyone with them.
-Hendrik Fauer, one of the activists
At least it is electric. Throw the paint on a Dodge Ram 3500 that dwarfs the Cyber truck AND burns oil.
This is like protesting at a small free range chicken farm when there’s an industrial chicken farm right next door.
This is an odd argument to make for a vegan. Because both of those farms need dismantling. Just like electric AND gas cars need to be phased out. While I can agree all these things do inequal damage, it’s STILL damage. Electric cars are a step but absolutely NOT a solution to climate change. Removing gas from the situation is well enough, we need mass transit and rebuilt infrastructure.
It’s wise to protest the placebo so people start seeking the cure.
Don’t make the perfect the enemy of the good.
I came SOOO close to putting that idiom in my response because I could see it a mile away. But what I, and the protestors themselves are saying, is that a electric cyber truck isn’t even “good”.
The most popular vehicle in America is a gas powered truck. If people switched to electric trucks, it would be good. It’s not perfect.
Have you lived anywhere other than a dense city? Mass transit doesn’t work everywhere.
Mass transit works just fine in rural areas when it’s properly constructed. Busses are about the single worst option for mass transit, and options like high speed rail excel in connecting rural areas to urban and exurban areas with better job opportunities and connecting urbanites to rural areas, both of which bring money to the rural areas.
Switzerland has one of the best rail systems in Europe yet it has more cars per capita than the UK at 604. The US is at 850. So creating a mass transit system in the US equal to the best in Europe would only reduce car usage by 30%. That’s the best possible.
There’s validity in going after something that specifically symbolizes Elon rather than a random gas guzzler. Though electric cars are (debatably) less harmful than regular ones, Elon has done a lot of work in setting back even better solutions by promoting them over things like trains.
Also he sucks for a million other reasons but he’s definitely a sort of wolf in sheep’s clothing when it comes to environmentalism.
Y’all act like you can only throw paint at one car.
But they only threw paint at one car.
That’s so stupid. Yes it’s ugly, impractical, and dumb. But if it’s anything like the R1T or Hummer EV, it gets 50-70 mpg equivalent. That’s great.
Careful, they are learning that electric cars are more damaging to the environment then normal ones!
Three ton stainless steel monstrosities are a danger to society and not an efficient use of green knowledge.
It doesnt mean a nissan leaf is bad.
They didn’t say that.
That’s the problem when one’s rhetorical toolbox is thrown soup.
I dont know what you said.
It’s a long running brouhaha about the effectiveness of the Just Stop Oil tactics
That is not quite true. Electric cars over their lifetime are definitely a lot lot better than ICE cars. HOWEVER, they are definitely not the solution for transportation. Public transit is.
Getting new electric vehicles makes sense for vehicles that simply cannot be replaced by other alternatives (examples of such vehicles being pickups for businesses, those little vans for the post office, buses, etc.).
Of course, the most eco friendly thing is generally what u already have. Switching to an electric car from ur five year old ICE car is more environmentally damaging.
Over the life of an EV, there are significantly less emissions, even when including vehicle construction emissions. This is just flat out wrong.
Is it the sunrise kids? I would not be surprised if this was sunrise.
that orange paint might actually improve its weather resistance
MrMakabarAlso they are easier to spot.
Have you ever seen one in person? I have, and at the wrong angle, that shiny stainless steel reflects the sun just about as much as a mirror does, blinding other drivers and pedestrians at certain angles.
So if anything, a paint job of any sort, vandalism or not, only serves to make them ever so slightly safer…
I’ve seen a single one. It was in the oncoming lane and honestly I and didn’t even process it as a vehicle at first. My first thought was that it was the bumper of a semi.
Oof, damn. I can totally understand what you mean there. I never thought of it quite like that, the one I saw wasn’t while driving, they just happened to park behind us at our city park and i got a couple photos.
So I had a chance to walk around it for a good camera angle. But yes indeed, bad angles are extremely blinding.
But now you got me sorta scared to see one while actually driving…
ZikejiQuite a few in my area. Just the other day I saw one with a matte wrap and gold accents on the sharp edges.
How classy huh? /s
These dumbasses aren’t winning over any converts by throwing paint on everything.
I’m not so sure. It gets them attention and the opportunity to share their message. And not everyone is so cynical as to immediately dismiss them as dumbasses.
Actually, they are
drdiddlybadgerVandalizing a cybertruck is pretty cool in my book. It’s the ugliest abomination of automobile you can purchase right now and they’re entirely right, it’s too heavy sucks to much power for it’s use case, and is incredibly unsafe for anyone it manages to run into.
There are plenty of ICE vehicles that are heavy and ugly that deserve just as much scorn. Cybertruck is ugly as sin, but this is like throwing blood on someone wearing fake fur.
Nah we can vandalize multiple vehicles at a time there is plenty of paint to go around. 😤 Don’t let your dreams be dreams trash a gas guzzling truck too.
Idk this one I can get behind
I was not impressed by the Stonehenge vandalism, because it’s not an example of punching up, imo. However, this punches at the very people who are furthering climate change, billionaires, so I’m all for it.
This seems like a decent target to throw paint at, for a change.
TheRealCharlesEamesI support the climate activists, bigly. I think they could have chosen a better target.
Every single time
HannesHow do they plan to sell it in Europe when pedestrian survival change is a necessary part of crash tests?
That car is slicing everyone in half that it hits and even if it isn’t that hood being steel will smash everyone’s head it.
The PantserProbably the same way it was able to be released in the USA, they paid the off the crash testers. USA NTSB is a joke. Whatever happened to their power to force cars to have safety.
The goddamned things are built so much like shit that the fucking back wheels will break off from a front end crash…
youtube.com/watch?v=9ll2_BDZpI4
Like, how the fuck does that even happen like that?
Worst. Vehicle. Ever.
Cybertruck Crash Test is HORRIFYING, Here’s Why
If you watched the whole video, he later dismisses it as the back wheels can turn as well, so they probably just folded in without them necessarily breaking
Now I’m no genius, but I am something of a mechanic, wuth experience in suspension systems amongst many other things.
I can assure you that there is absolutely no reason for a wheel to ‘fold in’ like you said, I don’t care if it has rear wheel steering or not.
That shit’s just straight up broke yo.
SteveDid you finish watching that video?
It has independent rear wheel steering.
That’s the rear wheels turning in, because they’re meant to pivot.
I don’t care, that’s still broken. The inertia from a sudden hard impact should not cause a non-impacted wheel to either move or even suddenly ‘steer’ for any reason.
Yes I totally get that these are extreme forces in question, but the parts and suspension system should be built stronger than that, where inertia alone won’t cause damage to non-impacted parts on the opposite end of the vehicle.
If i see one in Poland im gonna very lightly scratch it with a key so that the scratch rusts for ever.
That’s overkill, LITERALLY just throw saltwater on it. You would only need to scratch a surface that has some kind of coating. These are just bare stainless, and not even very corrosion resistant stainless at that.
It is never going to be sold in the EU because of how horribly unsafe it is for everyone around it.
It doesn’t have crumble zones, it has pointy edges, it is wider than the allowed 2,55m. The list probably goes on for way longer. Even the back mirror might not be suitable.
Look honestly this is pretty stupid.
The cyber truck is a super expensive, conservative coded, pavement princess car. The people buying it are probably doing so instead of getting an F350 with one of those illegal mods that lets you pipe out black smoke. It’s overall a net positive for the environment.
I feel like this is less about the Cybertruck and more about Elon. I get he’s hateable, but people just end up feeling lied to when you use BS logic to pretend that the (supposedly) best selling EV pickup in the US somehow needs to be targeted by climate activists. Just deface his private jet or some shit.
No. Both vehicles are absolute trash for the environment. Just because it's an EV does not mean it is suddenly environmentally friendly. The stupid stainless steel alone uses up idiotic amounts of energy to produce and in the end it is still a several ton heavy vehicle instead of some form of micro car.
And no, no one really uses this or an ICE truck in a way that would require them to have one. Even people who haul shit in the back would usually do with a more sensible roofed vehicle, but that would be less "cool".
All of those big cars can and should be a target. If we go with individual motor traffic, then we should use vehicles that are as compact and basic as possible.
And no, no one really uses this or an ICE truck in a way that would require them to have one. Even people who haul shit in the back would usually do with a more sensible roofed vehicle, but that would be less “cool”.
Wait, no one has a legitimate use case for a truck? Like transporting building materials and tools? Large furniture and appliances? People who live along an unpaved mountain road, or work somewhere similarly remote, like forestry? Towing fifth-wheel trailers? When it snows here, I’m stuck at home until someone with a truck comes by to plow… They have large dedicated snowplows for the highways and stuff, but for out-of-the-way residential streets, the city contracts private pickup truck owners with their own plows. I’m glad they’re around.
Like don’t get me wrong-- The majority of truck owners pretty much never do these things, and it’s an extremely wasteful vanity display for them. That’s bad. Most people who buy Cybertrucks will not be doing truck stuff with them. That’s bad too.
But I think some people have a good reason to own a truck.
We're talking about less than 1% here. And yes, most of even your examples do not require a pickup truck, or even your own hauler. Just look at other countries. People transporting tools? They have little vans or nowadays even cargo bikes. This whole pickup truck thing is very much an US fetish.
ZagorathAlmost all use cases for yank tanks and monster utes would be better served by some other vehicle. Large furniture and appliances? A van. Unpaved mountain road (sure…let’s just pretend that that’s actually a significant enough market to be worth derailing the conversation to talk about)? A 4WD. Transporting building materials and tools? Either a real truck or a more traditional ute. Or even a bakfiets if they’re just doing minor home repairs.
Are there use cases where yank tanks are truly the best option? Yeah probably. But they are so vanishingly small that they’re never worth talking about.
I don’t really understand your point. Vans have advantages for moving large stuff, but trucks do too. Trucks are the most common type of 4WD vehicle. For materials/tools, your examples are “big truck,” and “small truck.” Why are those acceptable, but “truck sized truck” is galling?
Oh there was also “backwards truck but bike.” I unironically love that, and I wish those were more common, but that guy isn’t coming 20km out of town in the snow with a new hot water tank.
The fact that trucks can do all of those things pretty well plus serve as an everyday personal vehicle means that IMO they do fit pretty well into lots of peoples’ lives.
4WD usually refers to a vehicle more like a Subaru Forester than a Ram, at least in my dialect of English. And while I’m at it, we don’t use the word “truck” here to refer to anything other than actual trucks. What Americans often call a truck would usually be called a “ute”, though that’s a relatively imprecise use of the term compared to the more traditional ute I linked above.
And, to be clear, I’m pretty anti-Forester, too, because most people rarely if ever use them in a way that actually needs that vehicle. But they’re definitely less obnoxious than yank tanks.
The point here isn’t that there is literally zero possible use case for them. It’s that the use case is so vanishingly small that bringing it up as a defence to criticism of those vehicles is just annoying and comes across as (even if you did not intend it this way) an attempt to derail the conversation in bad faith.
Oh… I think in my part of the world, most people picture a pickup truck when they think of a 4WD vehicle, although other vehicles like a Forester or Jeep would also be included.
I guess for me, I know enough non-city people who have vehicle needs that very regularly involve hauling, towing, driving off-road (or on barely-a-road surfaces), etc. that it doesn’t seem weird or wasteful to me that they own a truck, even though yes they also use them to pick up groceries. There’s great benefit in the versatility, which other vehicles don’t easily match, and I don’t think the number of people who need that versatility is vanishingly small.
In the city though, yeah… Almost nobody needs a truck in the city.