floofloofDonald Trump rally shooting being probed as assassination attempt: AP sources
We need more patriotic heroes like the shooter. Corrupt politicians would be afraid of society, as it should be.
I’m not ready to encourage this because anybody can get pissed off for any reason. There is very little that a politician does that makes everybody happy.
Forget about pleasing everybody. How about having policies that please >50% of people? With no gerrymandering
TallonMetroidI’m still not convinced this was a genuine attempt on his life and not a false flag op by crisis actors. Because that’s exactly the sort of nonsense I expect from fascist ilk.
talTrump took a bullet to the ear. He was a fraction of an inch away from the thing doing his skull. Nobody is going to intentionally have someone shoot their ear.
Not arguing for or against, but TMZ has reported that he was struck by glass from the teleprompter and not directly shot/grazed: tmz.com/…/donald-trump-appear-shot-pennsylvania-r…
Hmm.
4:21 PM PT – A SOURCE WHO HAS SPOKEN WITH A MEMBER OF THE SECRET SERVICE TELL TMZ, TRUMP WAS NOT HIT BY A BULLET. RATHER, A BULLET HIT HIS TELEPROMPTER AND THE GLASS STRUCK HIM BY THE EAR.
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According to CBS, Trump apparently posted that his ear was hit by a bullet, but I suppose that he might also not have known what hit him:
cbsnews.com/…/trump-says-shots-pierced-injured-ea…
The presumptive Republican nominee said he heard “a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin.” It’s not yet clear whether Trump was hit by a bullet or shrapnel, but blood was strewn across his ear and face as Secret Service agents ushered him offstage.
“I want to thank The United States Secret Service, and all of Law Enforcement, for their rapid response on the shooting that just took place in Butler, Pennsylvania,” Trump wrote on his social media platform, Truth Social. “Most importantly, I want to extend my condolences to the family of the person at the Rally who was killed, and also to the family of another person that was badly injured. It is incredible that such an act can take place in our Country. Nothing is known at this time about the shooter, who is now dead. I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear. I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin. Much bleeding took place, so I realized then what was happening. GOD BLESS AMERICA!”
Back when Reagan was shot, he didn’t even think that he’d been shot, was ticked off at the Secret Service guy who threw him into the car, thought that the guy had broken one of his ribs.
EDIT: Though Teddy Roosevelt knew:
en.wikipedia.org/…/Attempted_assassination_of_The…
Schrank did shoot Roosevelt, but the bullet lodged in Roosevelt’s chest only after hitting both his steel eyeglass case and a 50-page copy of his speech titled “Progressive Cause Greater Than Any Individual”, which he was carrying in his jacket pocket. As onlookers gasped and screamed, Elbert E. Martin, one of Roosevelt’s secretaries and an ex-football player, was the first to react, leaping at Schrank, wrestling him to the ground and seizing his gun.[8] A. O. Girard, a former Rough Rider and bodyguard of the ex-president, and several policemen were upon Schrank at the same moment. Roosevelt stumbled, but straightened himself, and again raised his hat, with a reassuring smile upon his face. His aide, Harry Cochems, asked Roosevelt if he was hit, and Roosevelt simply said assuredly, “He pinked me, Harry.”[9]
Roosevelt, as an experienced hunter and anatomist, correctly concluded that since he was not coughing blood, the bullet had not reached his lung, and he declined suggestions to go to the hospital immediately. Instead, he delivered his scheduled speech with blood seeping into his shirt.[11][12] He spoke for 50 minutes before completing his speech and accepting medical attention. His opening comments to the gathered crowd were, “Ladies and gentlemen, I don’t know whether you fully understand that I have just been shot, but it takes more than that to kill a Bull Moose.”[13][14][15]
Trump says bullet "pierced the upper part of my right ear" when shots were fired at Pennsylvania rally
"I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin," former President Trump wrote.
Trump took a bullet to the ear.
He did?
Ok, a good chunk of people think Biden is corrupt so by your logic they should shoot him too? I hope I don’t have to spell out where this leads and why it’s a terrible idea.
You’re aware that Turnip is a literal terrorist, yes?
Yes which is why I think he should be prosecuted for his crimes. If we go down the road of extra judicially killing anyone who you think is a terrorist then what kind of society do you think that will lead to?
What kind of a road do you think we’re on right now?
Imagine no more assassination attempts.
Trump wins.
Project 2025 is enacted.
Jews, Hispanics and LGBTQs are rounded up and thrown in concentration camps.
The signs are there. Are you going to still be sitting on a high horse right up until the moment it happens? What then, you turn around and stave off the fourth Reich with whoever’s left?
Will you be happy then?
It’s not even about the moral issue, although I think murdering your political opponents is wrong. Just think it through practically. Killing Trump doesn’t stop project 2025. There’s going to be quite a few names on that list if you want to solve this situation through violence.
You have a process to prevent this from happening right now, the same one that prevented it last time. Ironically this attempt will likely just make things worse assuming there is no retaliatory violence from the other side.
The whole situation is super fucked up either way. I wish you all the best for your country, it seems like it’s going to be pretty bad for a while at least.
Thank you for giving your response some thought.
I think he should be prosecuted for his crimes too, but look around, that’s not what’s happening.
If the government cannot provide justice, the people will in their own ways.
I fear the path we’re on as a nation and world, and i don’t see an offramp currently. I cope by preparing for instability, not by denying the current situation. We live in interesting times.
OmegaI’m not advocating for it specifically because of what you laid out.
But I assume they would want people to act on evidence, whether that’s in a courtroom or vigilante justice. So their logic would say, no they shouldn’t. But yes, that’s what it would lead to.
hopesdeadWill this get the GOP to finally support gun bans?
Nope. Remember when someone shot up a congressional softball game and nothing happened?
Remember when Jan 6 nutters stormed the Capitol with guns and zip ties and nothing happened to the person inciting all of it?
What people had guns on Capitol grounds?
Only guns I know of were the ones found a good distance away…
There were absolutely guns.
www.statesman.com/story/news/…/7621149001/
They did also find a stockpile of guns a distance away. Both are true.
Many GOP events already ban guns at the events, they just dont ban it outside them
Perfectly logical for them, since Republicans aren’t the right people to be shooting at.
No, it will get them to support preemptively shooting those in the out-group.
*continue supporting
They’re probably lining up to buy more
Maxnmy'sThis is pretty bad. There are reports that a bystander was killed. It’s gross to call the shooter a hero.
I have seen zero people saying that
There are some good people out there.
It’s not gross.
I’d be pleased if Trump never existed. It’s still gross to call the shooter a hero.
I’m not advocating for it. But Trump has, repeatedly. Again and again. I have no fucks to give and I do not find it gross. He advocated for Hillary to be assassinated, wanted to shoot protesters, and still considers Ashli Babbitt a hero.
I don’t find it gross when people want pedophiles to get the death penalty, even if I disagree with the government having that sort of power. I’m not going to condemn people who are happy with the shooter, even though I don’t support the actions.
We don’t know why the shooter tried to shoot Trump. We also know that this will role up his base. And the shooter failed at what he was trying to do.
That doesn’t sound like a hero.
Dude was probably messed up in the head. If we call this attempted assassin a hero, that might inspire copycat crimes of people trying to shoot public figures they disagree with. I know there’s that second amendment and all, but is that really how you want the country to function?
I already said I don’t support the action. And that’s exactly why. But I’m not going to dismiss people’s feelings on the matter.
In the same way I don’t support the death penalty. But I’m not going to deny that people feel catharsis when a pedophile or a murderer is executed.
Then you are no different fron Jan 6 nuts
Why would they be a hero? They helped trump.
A Trump supporter was killed?
Who called them a hero?
Yeah, they missed…
Nobody in their right mind wants this. It only helps Trump.
I’m not calling the shooter a hero. And I’m not going to advocate for violence because I don’t want to normalize that. But I’m also not going to call it gross. The ONLY reason I think it’s bad is because of the fallout.
Trump has openly advocated for this for the last 8 years, but for his adversaries. He still treats Ashli Babbitt as a martyr. He wanted to shoot peaceful protesters. Etc, etc, etc. I think anyone with an ounce of sympathy with that sack of crap is gross.
I don’t find it gross that murderers and rapists are given the death penalty. But I don’t advocate for government to have that power either.
FredselfishHe wasted his life and didn’t even succeed in his goal, or did he? I know sounds nuts but by the looks this attempt on Trump life has helped him. Look at that goddamm photo op. Bullshit.
I don’t follow the news for one day, and apparently Richard Simmons took a shot at Trump. Or was it Dr. Ruth?
Dr. Ruth was a trained sniper. No joke.
TIL
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Westheimer
Westheimer joined the Haganah Jewish Zionist underground paramilitary organization (later, the Israel Defense Forces) in Jerusalem.[26][27][25][28] Because of her diminutive height of 4 feet 7 inches (140 cm), she was trained as a scout and sniper.[24][28][29] Of this experience, she said, “I never killed anybody, but I know how to throw hand grenades and shoot.”[30] She became an ace sniper, and learned to assemble a rifle in the dark.[24][14] When she was 90 years old, she demonstrated that she was still able to put together a Sten gun with her eyes closed.[31]
A sniper for terrorists, specifically
Well, I think at the time the people involved felt differently. But, she left, so maybe she did feel like that.
Bold move, criticizing someone whose parents were killed by Nazis.
What a convenient looking photo…
It’s almost like it was staged.
I guess I am not sure what else it would be considered…
False flag operation is another term to consider
tateTitle: “AP sources”
link: “something else - not AP.”
me: “why?”
Weird how a guy whose administration directly and indirectly killed a lot of people, plans to up his body count in a second term, who’s committed multiple crimes, including insurrection and espionage, but seems both unlikely to ever see justice and furthermore appears to be likely to be elected back into office would prompt an assassination attempt. It’s the small scale of “those who make peaceful revolution impossible” quote. Have a functioning justice system where you can just trust that people who do crimes will be put in prison and a functioning political system where you can just trust that the absolute worst people won’t get all the power, and assassinations become the province of the insane rather than an entirely unsurprising outcome.
I hate that this photo is everywhere. It makes him look triumphant and heroic, or at least it does to his supporters. I’d rather see him cowering and crying on the ground like a punk.
He was saying “wait wait wait” as SS were trying to escort him off the stage, so he could pose and pump his fist. He knew what he was doing here
The USSS was even ducking below him so he could be up high. All the way to his vehicle. WTF!?
This is the same service whose car Mike Pence wouldn’t enter on Jan 6th because he suspected they were Trump loyalists.
Pretty sure each time he says “Wait”… He asks for his shoes.