Daring FireballNew Cars in the EU Now Equipped With Nagging Speed Limiters
https://daringfireball.net/linked/2024/07/09/intelligent-speed-nagging
https://daringfireball.net/linked/2024/07/09/intelligent-speed-nagging
David M. Levinson ⁂@daringfireball you talk about walking everywhere in Philly on your show, do you not see speeding and the problems it creates. https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/speed-campaign-speeding-fatalities-14-year-high
CharlieG@Transportist @daringfireball I had the same thought. A person who enjoys the walkability of an old city — somewhat unusual in the California-dominated tech press — complaining about ensuring cars don’t speed.
The better answer to the “nagging” criticism is not to give people the option — why allow people to choose to be able to drive too fast? (Unless it’s a reliability issue.)
@Charles @daringfireball the risk that there are inconsistencies in the GPS maps and posted speed limits remains. And there is always some imagined emergency scenario (going to hospital, saving the city from terrorists, etc. ) that has to accounted for.
@Transportist @daringfireball I can live with the former. The latter I guess is an issue to some extent (and I’ve driven my daughter to hospital at great speed, so one I have some sympathy for!), but I’m not at all sure it outweighs the bigger issue.
Brent Toderian (@[email protected])
Attached: 1 image IMPORTANT STUDY: “On average, the implementation of 30 km/h speed limits in European cities demonstrated a 23%, 37%, and 38% reduction in road crashes, fatalities, and injuries respectively. Lower speed limits also yielded environmental benefits, with emissions decreasing on average by 18%, and fuel consumption by 7%, indicating enhanced fuel efficiency and reduced environmental impact.” https://www.nrso.ntua.gr/review-of-city-wide-30-kmh-speed-limit-benefits-in-europe-may-2024/
John Gruber@Transportist My opinions on this are not in contradiction at all. I strongly favor pedestrian-oriented street and intersection design, speed bumps, low speed limits in cities, congestion pricing in big cities, and the repurposing of street parking for other uses. I'd also be far less opposed to a mandate that cars simply cannot exceed posted speed limits, especially within cities.
This EU law just annoys drivers, though. It doesn't prevent drivers from going as fast as the car will go.
@gruber so do I read you correctly that you are in favor of (or just less opposed to) mandatory speed limiters in cars? (With or without emergency override?)